*raises hand*

I beg to differ...

 

More definitive: A first GEN. Z w/intake + exhaust is about 300hp
2nd GEN. stock is about 300hp
Yeah I guess with Nos and more money put into it than an S4 would need to gain the same amount, a heavily modded Z would be much more than 300hp.

 

yes sir. 532whp here on low boost.

 

It had to be a stock z, it is really easy to get over 450hp with basic mods. I doubt you can do that with a stock turbo s4. I love whooping up on fancy fast cars and motorcycles in my little 240sx.

 

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so forgive me if im only an a4....but what would you call the different stages for an a4?
because according to your chart, im stage 3-
i have k04, full exhaust, and k03 based software.....
but if you can put up a chart with the different stages, that would be great!

 

You're on the right track.

I have an 03 350Z so lets say I speak from experience. My car made 272whp on a dynojet which is pretty standard for guys with a few mods. Thats 320 crank HP with 15% correction which is about right for a 2WD RWD car. I have intake headers exhaust, manifold spacer, computer re-program, flywheel & clutch, udp for power mods. Nothing crazy.

Many guys with hi flow cats, Utec (programmable ecu) and a few other bits make it to 285whp (near 330hp crank)

Add some cams and 300whp (345 crank) has been made on several occasions.

The cars stock have gone as fast as 12.9 - 13.0 in the 1/4 on everything right down to stock tires but most guys run 13.5's or so. Modded cars with 300whp are dipping right to 12.0 flat at 115mph. Nitrous is immediate 11's easily.

So they are not slow cars and are super easy to get additional HP from, not like turbo cars, but for an N/A car that is super reliable they are tough to beat. So congrats to you for hanging with one because who knows what he had done to it and how fast it is. You just can't tell by looking at them. Mine looks like there is nothing done to it at all. I run the stock muffler on the street which doesn't cause any power loss at all because its stock 2.5" piping.

 

I don't know what you consider basic mods....but adding nearly 175hp from just an intake, header, exhaust and chip seems HIGHLY impractical. Maybe 60 hp. Plus I bet that would cost you around 1500 maybe? An S4 adds 80 hp/100 tq with just a 500 dollar chip...?

It is very rare that you can get easier power out of a N/A setup than a stock turbo setup for the same price.

 

^^^^^This is what I was implying, not that the Z is a bad car. Its the efficient manner of the S4 thats so attractive.....and that its a 4-door sedan seating passengers as I was only just able to creep by. While the opposing was only a driver in an Al can, was what got me in aw. Hell, Id like to have a GTR but then again Id like to have an RS6. To each his own. Whats important is that you like your car, not if others do.

 

Wow, LOTS of misinfo in this thread.....