Fastest S4? or bomb?
#31
01-16-2008 | 06:05 PM
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RE: Fastest S4? or bomb?
ORIGINAL: Baskin 4.2l
I think you are a little over optimistic. I would try getting a stock header and then a stock GT turbo first
As for tuning you obviously have not looked into ME7 custom tuning.
The pump alone is almost 300$
2-3 weeks? well I don't think so but I suppose it could be possible. But have you even pulled your motor yet. Not trying to say you can't or this would mean you don't know but. You clearly have never looked into this. There have been several people from day one that thought the same. The same several people don't have running GT cars.
Bottom line it has been tried and it looks better on paper then in practice. I would not risk over 4k to attempt it when I can have a good ko4 car with tuning for about the same.
If you feel different or more confident. That is awesome go for it put on GT's. It will be a great step for the 2.7T. But the idea of the forums is to help inform and I have seen several people think the same as you only to end up with lots of parts they found they couldn't use. So it is my job as a forum member to say. Great Idea but several people have thought the same it is not as easy as you are making it out to be and as of this point. YOU ARE WRONG and installing GT's is a much more complicated and costlyissue.
These are the facts untill someone takes theRISK to change them and sucseeds. All theory no practice. It is easier to talk than to do. I think this is one of those cases.
Keep in mind Im not saying you can't possibly figgure out a way to do all you are talking about. I am just passing on the attempts of shops and other people in the past. To let people know the facts not IMHO a overly optiomistic and simplifyed idea
I think you are a little over optimistic. I would try getting a stock header and then a stock GT turbo first
As for tuning you obviously have not looked into ME7 custom tuning.
The pump alone is almost 300$
2-3 weeks? well I don't think so but I suppose it could be possible. But have you even pulled your motor yet. Not trying to say you can't or this would mean you don't know but. You clearly have never looked into this. There have been several people from day one that thought the same. The same several people don't have running GT cars.
Bottom line it has been tried and it looks better on paper then in practice. I would not risk over 4k to attempt it when I can have a good ko4 car with tuning for about the same.
If you feel different or more confident. That is awesome go for it put on GT's. It will be a great step for the 2.7T. But the idea of the forums is to help inform and I have seen several people think the same as you only to end up with lots of parts they found they couldn't use. So it is my job as a forum member to say. Great Idea but several people have thought the same it is not as easy as you are making it out to be and as of this point. YOU ARE WRONG and installing GT's is a much more complicated and costlyissue.
These are the facts untill someone takes theRISK to change them and sucseeds. All theory no practice. It is easier to talk than to do. I think this is one of those cases.
Keep in mind Im not saying you can't possibly figgure out a way to do all you are talking about. I am just passing on the attempts of shops and other people in the past. To let people know the facts not IMHO a overly optiomistic and simplifyed idea
But you're right, until i put a setup together myself, I have no proof.
Edit: A walboro 255lph pump is $100.
#32
01-16-2008 | 06:39 PM
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RE: Fastest S4? or bomb?
if this helps I have been down the same road as you. I actully got a stock manifold and took the old t28 turbo off my 1.8t (i upgraded to a gt28rs) and started trying to see if I could mate the 2. you deffinitly are not going to just cut and weld a flange on. from what I could tell (mind you I have a tip) when I did get the comp cover to clear the header (this means it didn't hit any more) the angle was too low and the turbo sat too far down. this would mean the turbo would not drain oil. so I moved it up. when I did this there was no room. I either hit the trans or the body. at that point I said enoung and moved on.
there is a good chance if you mess with it long enough you MIGHT be able to get it to work.
your price on parts is close I still think it is a litle low. the time is the bigger issue and baskin is right now repitible tuner will even look at the car for less than 1000. the project being so difficult to tune you would either need a real experenced tuner or go standalone.
in the end I came to this conclusion. if it were this easy tuners would have already done this. the amount of money they could make on a modifyed header compared to thousands of dollars spent in making new headers is like 5 to 1.
I am not saying you can't try it or maybe even do it. just passing on my experence.
there is a good chance if you mess with it long enough you MIGHT be able to get it to work.
your price on parts is close I still think it is a litle low. the time is the bigger issue and baskin is right now repitible tuner will even look at the car for less than 1000. the project being so difficult to tune you would either need a real experenced tuner or go standalone.
in the end I came to this conclusion. if it were this easy tuners would have already done this. the amount of money they could make on a modifyed header compared to thousands of dollars spent in making new headers is like 5 to 1.
I am not saying you can't try it or maybe even do it. just passing on my experence.
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