Prop HR4437
#21
04-03-2006, 01:15 PM
RE: Prop HR4437
ORIGINAL: Toff_the_Toffee
My sis is a US citizen, and has been for 13 years. IF I wanted to gain citizenship through her, it would only take about 15 years. Thats really easy.
My sis is a US citizen, and has been for 13 years. IF I wanted to gain citizenship through her, it would only take about 15 years. Thats really easy.
#22
04-03-2006, 02:07 PM
RE: Prop HR4437
Well just pointing out that it isn't easy, regardless. I agree it should be hard to change citizenship, but you saying it's nat all that hard is wrong from what i have gathered.
#23
04-03-2006, 02:18 PM
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RE: Prop HR4437
ORIGINAL: Toff_the_Toffee
My sis is a US citizen, and has been for 13 years. IF I wanted to gain citizenship through her, it would only take about 15 years. Thats really easy.
My sis is a US citizen, and has been for 13 years. IF I wanted to gain citizenship through her, it would only take about 15 years. Thats really easy.
#24
04-03-2006, 03:23 PM
RE: Prop HR4437
ORIGINAL: Toff_the_Toffee
but you saying it's nat all that hard is wrong from what i have gathered.
but you saying it's nat all that hard is wrong from what i have gathered.
#25
04-03-2006, 05:54 PM
RE: Prop HR4437
ORIGINAL: AWDaholic
^^^which is a GOOD idea because, as it NOW stands, they "keep" them, like a colloctors set. First officer to get 50 wins a *new* patrol car...
Maybe
^^^which is a GOOD idea because, as it NOW stands, they "keep" them, like a colloctors set. First officer to get 50 wins a *new* patrol car...
Maybe
#27
04-03-2006, 08:17 PM
RE: Prop HR4437
ORIGINAL: pturbo
I love it that the ads for "Apply for US citizenship now!" have appeared on the thread because of this topic.
Click on the net and you're on your way.
I love it that the ads for "Apply for US citizenship now!" have appeared on the thread because of this topic.
Click on the net and you're on your way.
LOL.. i noticed that too....
#28
04-04-2006, 12:24 AM
RE: Prop HR4437
ORIGINAL: AWDaholic
^^^which is a GOOD idea because, as it NOW stands, they "keep" them, like a colloctors set. First officer to get 50 wins a *new* patrol car...
I think what you're referring to is that, under the new guidelines LOCAL municipalities will be able to prosecute local imigre as *criminals* as opposed to handling them as indigents, as they do now. But, honestly, what will they do with them, then? Hold them locally? Transfer them up to county lock-up? WHat then? Transfer to Federal, thence to a "border" holding facility until deported? Or, do we start building *new* facilities for holding these MILLIONS of new-found criminals? And, WHO, exactly, do you think is going to PAY for all this new enforcement? Pay for all the transportation and guarding of these new found criminals" Pay for the extra court personnel necessary to prosecurt these new found criminals? *NEW* legislation requires *NEW* funding. WHERE do you think the *NEW* money comes from? Lemmee guess, YOU believe all we hafta do is print MORE, right?
There are two ways to deal with ANY problem, be it natural, man-made, real, imagined, legislative, prolateriat, hydro-dynamic, epidemic, WHATEVER, and that is to treat the symptoms OR treat the cause. The legislation YOU'RE in favor of treats the symptoms, and, I'm sure, serves the needs of the constituents of what ever legislators proposed and seconded the legislation in question. Or, more specifically, serves the needs of some BUSINESS in the region that elected whatever legislators proposed and seconded the legislation in question. America's largest uniform supplier to border guards and prison bus drivers, maybe... As they say in law enforcement, "follow the money" and you'll find the culprit. This "wall," or "fence," or watever barrier is proposed? I'd be willing to bet that, if you were to do your homework you'd find that some company that has a MAJOR stake in wall, or fence, or barrier erection, is not only IN the state/region that the bills proponents are FROM, but, prolly pumped a fair anmount of $$$ INTO the reelection campaigns of the proponents of the bills original proponents, too!
Do a l'il looking APG, prove me wrong... Oh, and, stop being a knee-jerk reactionary alluh time. I realize you're young, but, you profess to have the capacity for independent, rational thought. So, why doncha, every so often. Us old guys dint get to be old by happenstance, you know (well, not ALL of us). Deja MOO comes into play. We've seen a lot of thos BULL before
Maybe
^^^which is a GOOD idea because, as it NOW stands, they "keep" them, like a colloctors set. First officer to get 50 wins a *new* patrol car...
I think what you're referring to is that, under the new guidelines LOCAL municipalities will be able to prosecute local imigre as *criminals* as opposed to handling them as indigents, as they do now. But, honestly, what will they do with them, then? Hold them locally? Transfer them up to county lock-up? WHat then? Transfer to Federal, thence to a "border" holding facility until deported? Or, do we start building *new* facilities for holding these MILLIONS of new-found criminals? And, WHO, exactly, do you think is going to PAY for all this new enforcement? Pay for all the transportation and guarding of these new found criminals" Pay for the extra court personnel necessary to prosecurt these new found criminals? *NEW* legislation requires *NEW* funding. WHERE do you think the *NEW* money comes from? Lemmee guess, YOU believe all we hafta do is print MORE, right?
There are two ways to deal with ANY problem, be it natural, man-made, real, imagined, legislative, prolateriat, hydro-dynamic, epidemic, WHATEVER, and that is to treat the symptoms OR treat the cause. The legislation YOU'RE in favor of treats the symptoms, and, I'm sure, serves the needs of the constituents of what ever legislators proposed and seconded the legislation in question. Or, more specifically, serves the needs of some BUSINESS in the region that elected whatever legislators proposed and seconded the legislation in question. America's largest uniform supplier to border guards and prison bus drivers, maybe... As they say in law enforcement, "follow the money" and you'll find the culprit. This "wall," or "fence," or watever barrier is proposed? I'd be willing to bet that, if you were to do your homework you'd find that some company that has a MAJOR stake in wall, or fence, or barrier erection, is not only IN the state/region that the bills proponents are FROM, but, prolly pumped a fair anmount of $$$ INTO the reelection campaigns of the proponents of the bills original proponents, too!
Do a l'il looking APG, prove me wrong... Oh, and, stop being a knee-jerk reactionary alluh time. I realize you're young, but, you profess to have the capacity for independent, rational thought. So, why doncha, every so often. Us old guys dint get to be old by happenstance, you know (well, not ALL of us). Deja MOO comes into play. We've seen a lot of thos BULL before
Maybe
#29
04-04-2006, 12:30 AM
RE: Prop HR4437
ORIGINAL: abacab
Why not become a legal immigrant (which isnt as hard as u think) and vote, so u can have a say in this.
ORIGINAL: apg96
So, please talk facts. WHen you say it is easy to become a 'legal immigrant' you are sharing an opinion...you obviously don't have any facts to back that up.
Most of your examples seem to be aimed at people of latin decent...seems a bit on the prejudice side.
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Plz read the topic i said nothing about being a citizen, which i agree is difficult, i said merely get a visa to be in the country. 3 ppl at work today we renewing their visa's for the US. And im not aiming this at any race im am saying this to any ILLEGAL immigrant that is in this country at the moment.
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