Joe Rogans letter to Kelloggs
#21
02-21-2009 | 04:03 PM
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Haha yeah, up here we're damn near communists!
And read what I'm saying, you dipshit. God, you are really slow. Let me say it again.
"They are not going to charge him because of a picture". Umm, wasn't I kind of implying that they had inadequate proof to charge him? Isn't that what I said? Doesn't that make you a moron? Yes.
He did not admit to it, but he didn't deny it either. Does that make sense to you? Read it over a few times real slow-like, and I think you'll get it. Delicate situations require delicate responses, and he tip toed through the situation with well rehearsed statements. I'm very glad he's not being charged. He's a normal guy, with an exceptional ability.
Also, Mr. Macho capitalist, Canada does have heroes, and we do have a backbone.
I don't see why you are so afraid of socialist ASPECTS of government.
Can I explain something to you? This might be tough.
YOU ARE MIDDLE CLASS! I have no reason to think you'll ever be anything but. Some socialist-resembling government programs won't hurt you. In fact, it'll probably at some point help you, or help somebody you care about. Not that the USA will ever be socialist (nor is Canada), but I hope you get the idea. It skims from the upper tax-bracket people, and helps out the lower. You're in the middle. This is all very complicated. Maybe I should find some youtube flix to help you understand.
You are frustratingly stupid.
And read what I'm saying, you dipshit. God, you are really slow. Let me say it again.
"They are not going to charge him because of a picture". Umm, wasn't I kind of implying that they had inadequate proof to charge him? Isn't that what I said? Doesn't that make you a moron? Yes.
He did not admit to it, but he didn't deny it either. Does that make sense to you? Read it over a few times real slow-like, and I think you'll get it. Delicate situations require delicate responses, and he tip toed through the situation with well rehearsed statements. I'm very glad he's not being charged. He's a normal guy, with an exceptional ability.
Also, Mr. Macho capitalist, Canada does have heroes, and we do have a backbone.
I don't see why you are so afraid of socialist ASPECTS of government.
Can I explain something to you? This might be tough.
YOU ARE MIDDLE CLASS! I have no reason to think you'll ever be anything but. Some socialist-resembling government programs won't hurt you. In fact, it'll probably at some point help you, or help somebody you care about. Not that the USA will ever be socialist (nor is Canada), but I hope you get the idea. It skims from the upper tax-bracket people, and helps out the lower. You're in the middle. This is all very complicated. Maybe I should find some youtube flix to help you understand.
You are frustratingly stupid.
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02-21-2009 | 04:25 PM
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Haha yeah, up here we're damn near communists!
And read what I'm saying, you dipshit. God, you are really slow. Let me say it again.
"They are not going to charge him because of a picture". Umm, wasn't I kind of implying that they had inadequate proof to charge him? Isn't that what I said? Doesn't that make you a moron? Yes.
He did not admit to it, but he didn't deny it either. Does that make sense to you? Read it over a few times real slow-like, and I think you'll get it. Delicate situations require delicate responses, and he tip toed through the situation with well rehearsed statements. I'm very glad he's not being charged. He's a normal guy, with an exceptional ability.
Also, Mr. Macho capitalist, Canada does have heroes, and we do have a backbone.
I don't see why you are so afraid of socialist ASPECTS of government.
Can I explain something to you? This might be tough.
YOU ARE MIDDLE CLASS! I have no reason to think you'll ever be anything but. Some socialist-resembling government programs won't hurt you. In fact, it'll probably at some point help you, or help somebody you care about. Not that the USA will ever be socialist (nor is Canada), but I hope you get the idea. It skims from the upper tax-bracket people, and helps out the lower. You're in the middle. This is all very complicated. Maybe I should find some youtube flix to help you understand.
You are frustratingly stupid.
And read what I'm saying, you dipshit. God, you are really slow. Let me say it again.
"They are not going to charge him because of a picture". Umm, wasn't I kind of implying that they had inadequate proof to charge him? Isn't that what I said? Doesn't that make you a moron? Yes.
He did not admit to it, but he didn't deny it either. Does that make sense to you? Read it over a few times real slow-like, and I think you'll get it. Delicate situations require delicate responses, and he tip toed through the situation with well rehearsed statements. I'm very glad he's not being charged. He's a normal guy, with an exceptional ability.
Also, Mr. Macho capitalist, Canada does have heroes, and we do have a backbone.
I don't see why you are so afraid of socialist ASPECTS of government.
Can I explain something to you? This might be tough.
YOU ARE MIDDLE CLASS! I have no reason to think you'll ever be anything but. Some socialist-resembling government programs won't hurt you. In fact, it'll probably at some point help you, or help somebody you care about. Not that the USA will ever be socialist (nor is Canada), but I hope you get the idea. It skims from the upper tax-bracket people, and helps out the lower. You're in the middle. This is all very complicated. Maybe I should find some youtube flix to help you understand.
You are frustratingly stupid.
Alittle about the USA...We are a Capitalist country because we reward those who work hard. We are not designed to give countinuely give hand outs to people who do not warrant such actions. Its shows you know nothing about captialism nor do you support it but would rather give to people who just wants hand outs and do not want to work for it just because they think they deserve it.
There is a saying we have used in the USA for along time......
Working hard is American Way....
Im sorry your country is far worst off then the USA because of the Socialist Agenda that has totally wrecked your country.
Show me 1 single Socialist Country that is successful...
Why am I against the Socialist ASPECT's?????
Because I am a US Combat Vet. and I would die for the US Flag...not a Socialist flag.
The great thing about America is that *No One is Equal* and nor should be anyone equal because everyone has the chance to create their own path of SUCCESS or FAILURE.
Who cares that I am *Middle Class*, being *Middle Class* has no bearing about how much I love America...
That is the diffence between a Captialist and a Socialist....
So go share your money who didnt work for it and I will keep my money that I earned.
Here is a break down on canada and socialism...
http://www.namyth.com/SocialismWORKS....php?sw=Canada
Obama wants to take the USA down the Socialist path but Americans are starting waking up and seeing what obama really is......
A Socialist.......and America will not put up with him and all his socialist loser's.
Again you just got owned....Socialist Loser....CANADA has backbone...That was very funny.
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02-21-2009 | 04:52 PM
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Though you will find over 1,000,000 people were arrested in 2008 for marijuana law violation. At the pace were going in 2009 so far were likely to be closer to 2,000,000. THATS fucked up.
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02-21-2009 | 05:07 PM
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Numerous polls show that 70-100+ million americans admit to having smoked pot. Because it involves people admitting to an illegal activity most people agree its slightly higher. I wasnt infering that 100 million people get high on a weekly basis.
Though you will find over 1,000,000 people were arrested in 2008 for marijuana law violation. At the pace were going in 2009 so far were likely to be closer to 2,000,000. THATS fucked up.
Though you will find over 1,000,000 people were arrested in 2008 for marijuana law violation. At the pace were going in 2009 so far were likely to be closer to 2,000,000. THATS fucked up.
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02-21-2009 | 05:21 PM
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I tryed to start a discussion with you in another thread but you didnt respond. Why is it you are against marijuana and other "drugs of the like". The closest drug we commonly use to marijuana is caffiene. Alcohol and tobacco are both legally sanctioned drugs that are FAR more dangerous than marijuana. I assume you disapprove of the use of alcohol and tobacco equally?
How Dangerous is Marijuana Compared with other Substances?
Number of American deaths per year that result directly or primarily from the following selected causes nationwide, according to World Almanacs, Life Insurance Actuarial (death) Rates, and the last 20 years of U.S. Surgeon Generals' reports.
TOBACCO 340,000 to 450,000
ALCOHOL (Not including 50% of all highway deaths and 65% of all murders) 150,000+
ASPIRIN (Including deliberate overdose) 180 to 1,000+
CAFFEINE (From stress, ulcers, and triggering irregular heartbeats, etc.) 1,000 to 10,000
"LEGAL" DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental) from legal, prescribed or patent medicines and/or mixing with alcohol - e.g. Valium/alcohol 14,000 to 27,000
ILLICIT DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental) from all illegal drugs. 3,800 to 5,200
MARIJUANA 0
(Marijuana users also have the same or lower incidence of murders and highway deaths and accidents than the general non-marijuana using population as a whole. Crancer Study, UCLA; U.S. Funded ($6 million), First & Second Jamaican Studies, 1968 to 1974; Costa Rican Studies, 1980 to 1982; et al. LOWEST TOXICITY 100% of the studies done at dozens of American universities and research facilities show pot toxicity does not exist. Medical history does not record anyone dying from an overdose of marijuana. (UCLA, Harvard, Temple, etc.)
DATED: SEPTEMBER 6, 1988 Section 8 of Judge Young's "Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law and Decision."
Page 56 & 57 Judge Young's Ruling
3. The most obvious concern when dealing with drug safety is the possibility of lethal effects. Can the drug cause death?
4. Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects. But marijuana is not such a substance. There is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented cannabis-induced fatality.
This is a remarkable statement. First, the record on marijuana encompasses 5,000 years of human experience. Second, marijuana is now used daily by enormous numbers of people throughout the world. Estimates suggest that from twenty million to fifty million Americans routinely, albeit illegally, smoke marijuana without the benefit of direct medical supervision. Yet, despite this long history of use and the extraordinarily high numbers of social smokers, there are simply no credible medical reports to suggest that consuming marijuana has caused a single death.
6. By contrast aspirin, a commonly used, over-the-counter medicine, causes hundreds of deaths each year.
7. Drugs used in medicine are routinely given what is called an LD-50. The LD-50 rating indicates at what dosage fifty percent of test animals receiving a drug will die as a result of drug induced toxicity. A number of researchers have attempted to determine marijuana's LD-50 rating in test animals, without success. Simply stated, researchers have been unable to give animals enough marijuana to induce death.
8. At present it is estimated that marijuana's LD-50 is around 1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response.
9. In practical terms, marijuana cannot induce a lethal response as a result of drug-related toxicity.
How Dangerous is Marijuana Compared with other Substances?
Number of American deaths per year that result directly or primarily from the following selected causes nationwide, according to World Almanacs, Life Insurance Actuarial (death) Rates, and the last 20 years of U.S. Surgeon Generals' reports.
TOBACCO 340,000 to 450,000
ALCOHOL (Not including 50% of all highway deaths and 65% of all murders) 150,000+
ASPIRIN (Including deliberate overdose) 180 to 1,000+
CAFFEINE (From stress, ulcers, and triggering irregular heartbeats, etc.) 1,000 to 10,000
"LEGAL" DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental) from legal, prescribed or patent medicines and/or mixing with alcohol - e.g. Valium/alcohol 14,000 to 27,000
ILLICIT DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental) from all illegal drugs. 3,800 to 5,200
MARIJUANA 0
(Marijuana users also have the same or lower incidence of murders and highway deaths and accidents than the general non-marijuana using population as a whole. Crancer Study, UCLA; U.S. Funded ($6 million), First & Second Jamaican Studies, 1968 to 1974; Costa Rican Studies, 1980 to 1982; et al. LOWEST TOXICITY 100% of the studies done at dozens of American universities and research facilities show pot toxicity does not exist. Medical history does not record anyone dying from an overdose of marijuana. (UCLA, Harvard, Temple, etc.)
DATED: SEPTEMBER 6, 1988 Section 8 of Judge Young's "Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law and Decision."
Page 56 & 57 Judge Young's Ruling
3. The most obvious concern when dealing with drug safety is the possibility of lethal effects. Can the drug cause death?
4. Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects. But marijuana is not such a substance. There is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented cannabis-induced fatality.
This is a remarkable statement. First, the record on marijuana encompasses 5,000 years of human experience. Second, marijuana is now used daily by enormous numbers of people throughout the world. Estimates suggest that from twenty million to fifty million Americans routinely, albeit illegally, smoke marijuana without the benefit of direct medical supervision. Yet, despite this long history of use and the extraordinarily high numbers of social smokers, there are simply no credible medical reports to suggest that consuming marijuana has caused a single death.
6. By contrast aspirin, a commonly used, over-the-counter medicine, causes hundreds of deaths each year.
7. Drugs used in medicine are routinely given what is called an LD-50. The LD-50 rating indicates at what dosage fifty percent of test animals receiving a drug will die as a result of drug induced toxicity. A number of researchers have attempted to determine marijuana's LD-50 rating in test animals, without success. Simply stated, researchers have been unable to give animals enough marijuana to induce death.
8. At present it is estimated that marijuana's LD-50 is around 1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response.
9. In practical terms, marijuana cannot induce a lethal response as a result of drug-related toxicity.
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02-21-2009 | 05:42 PM
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I tryed to start a discussion with you in another thread but you didnt respond. Why is it you are against marijuana and other "drugs of the like". The closest drug we commonly use to marijuana is caffiene. Alcohol and tobacco are both legally sanctioned drugs that are FAR more dangerous than marijuana.
How Dangerous is Marijuana Compared with other Substances?
Number of American deaths per year that result directly or primarily from the following selected causes nationwide, according to World Almanacs, Life Insurance Actuarial (death) Rates, and the last 20 years of U.S. Surgeon Generals' reports.
TOBACCO 340,000 to 450,000
ALCOHOL (Not including 50% of all highway deaths and 65% of all murders) 150,000+
ASPIRIN (Including deliberate overdose) 180 to 1,000+
CAFFEINE (From stress, ulcers, and triggering irregular heartbeats, etc.) 1,000 to 10,000
"LEGAL" DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental) from legal, prescribed or patent medicines and/or mixing with alcohol - e.g. Valium/alcohol 14,000 to 27,000
ILLICIT DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental) from all illegal drugs. 3,800 to 5,200
MARIJUANA 0
(Marijuana users also have the same or lower incidence of murders and highway deaths and accidents than the general non-marijuana using population as a whole. Crancer Study, UCLA; U.S. Funded ($6 million), First & Second Jamaican Studies, 1968 to 1974; Costa Rican Studies, 1980 to 1982; et al. LOWEST TOXICITY 100% of the studies done at dozens of American universities and research facilities show pot toxicity does not exist. Medical history does not record anyone dying from an overdose of marijuana. (UCLA, Harvard, Temple, etc.)
DATED: SEPTEMBER 6, 1988 Section 8 of Judge Young's "Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law and Decision."
Page 56 & 57 Judge Young's Ruling
3. The most obvious concern when dealing with drug safety is the possibility of lethal effects. Can the drug cause death?
4. Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects. But marijuana is not such a substance. There is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented cannabis-induced fatality.
This is a remarkable statement. First, the record on marijuana encompasses 5,000 years of human experience. Second, marijuana is now used daily by enormous numbers of people throughout the world. Estimates suggest that from twenty million to fifty million Americans routinely, albeit illegally, smoke marijuana without the benefit of direct medical supervision. Yet, despite this long history of use and the extraordinarily high numbers of social smokers, there are simply no credible medical reports to suggest that consuming marijuana has caused a single death.
6. By contrast aspirin, a commonly used, over-the-counter medicine, causes hundreds of deaths each year.
7. Drugs used in medicine are routinely given what is called an LD-50. The LD-50 rating indicates at what dosage fifty percent of test animals receiving a drug will die as a result of drug induced toxicity. A number of researchers have attempted to determine marijuana's LD-50 rating in test animals, without success. Simply stated, researchers have been unable to give animals enough marijuana to induce death.
8. At present it is estimated that marijuana's LD-50 is around 1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response.
9. In practical terms, marijuana cannot induce a lethal response as a result of drug-related toxicity.
How Dangerous is Marijuana Compared with other Substances?
Number of American deaths per year that result directly or primarily from the following selected causes nationwide, according to World Almanacs, Life Insurance Actuarial (death) Rates, and the last 20 years of U.S. Surgeon Generals' reports.
TOBACCO 340,000 to 450,000
ALCOHOL (Not including 50% of all highway deaths and 65% of all murders) 150,000+
ASPIRIN (Including deliberate overdose) 180 to 1,000+
CAFFEINE (From stress, ulcers, and triggering irregular heartbeats, etc.) 1,000 to 10,000
"LEGAL" DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental) from legal, prescribed or patent medicines and/or mixing with alcohol - e.g. Valium/alcohol 14,000 to 27,000
ILLICIT DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental) from all illegal drugs. 3,800 to 5,200
MARIJUANA 0
(Marijuana users also have the same or lower incidence of murders and highway deaths and accidents than the general non-marijuana using population as a whole. Crancer Study, UCLA; U.S. Funded ($6 million), First & Second Jamaican Studies, 1968 to 1974; Costa Rican Studies, 1980 to 1982; et al. LOWEST TOXICITY 100% of the studies done at dozens of American universities and research facilities show pot toxicity does not exist. Medical history does not record anyone dying from an overdose of marijuana. (UCLA, Harvard, Temple, etc.)
DATED: SEPTEMBER 6, 1988 Section 8 of Judge Young's "Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law and Decision."
Page 56 & 57 Judge Young's Ruling
3. The most obvious concern when dealing with drug safety is the possibility of lethal effects. Can the drug cause death?
4. Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects. But marijuana is not such a substance. There is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented cannabis-induced fatality.
This is a remarkable statement. First, the record on marijuana encompasses 5,000 years of human experience. Second, marijuana is now used daily by enormous numbers of people throughout the world. Estimates suggest that from twenty million to fifty million Americans routinely, albeit illegally, smoke marijuana without the benefit of direct medical supervision. Yet, despite this long history of use and the extraordinarily high numbers of social smokers, there are simply no credible medical reports to suggest that consuming marijuana has caused a single death.
6. By contrast aspirin, a commonly used, over-the-counter medicine, causes hundreds of deaths each year.
7. Drugs used in medicine are routinely given what is called an LD-50. The LD-50 rating indicates at what dosage fifty percent of test animals receiving a drug will die as a result of drug induced toxicity. A number of researchers have attempted to determine marijuana's LD-50 rating in test animals, without success. Simply stated, researchers have been unable to give animals enough marijuana to induce death.
8. At present it is estimated that marijuana's LD-50 is around 1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response.
9. In practical terms, marijuana cannot induce a lethal response as a result of drug-related toxicity.
Sorry I did not realize you wanted to start a thread with me about this topic.
Well I have my feelings on this topic and I hope you can accept my views.
Nearly every person I have known who has smoked pot later moved on to a stronger drug.
This a topic I am not a expert in nor do I claim to be. I have tried 3 times playing with pot in my early years (Im 41 now) and I hated the feeling it gave me.
I was raised in Germany and drank alcohol at a very early age and it was way of life since it was a accepted way of life. I travelled to Amsterdam and other countries where drugs were legal and those druged out people were alot more depressing then a person who had some drinks. Even though I was raised on alcohol and had my times in the US Army of partying and can hold my own, I rarely drink right now.
Its also a known fact that drug lords are bringing drugs into the US and killing our kids and using that money to support terrorism.
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02-21-2009 | 06:23 PM
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Drug users opinion's dont matter....