View Poll Results: Obama or McCain?
Obama/Biden
58
56.86%
McCain/Palin
44
43.14%
Voters: 102. You may not vote on this poll
*------Election 2008------*
#31
Weve got an old senile man who cant remember half the **** he says and a sexy librarian to fill the slot when he croaks... i cant believe this is even a race
o wait i forgot obamas black and his middle name is hussain
seriously tho if he was white with a normal name im pretty sure this election would be a landslide
and the tax thing but in the end you get what you pay for....
o wait i forgot obamas black and his middle name is hussain
seriously tho if he was white with a normal name im pretty sure this election would be a landslide
and the tax thing but in the end you get what you pay for....
Last edited by bgrist; 09-11-2008 at 01:02 PM.
#34
That was a truly dumb statement. Just because a person is different and you choose to look beyond then make an informed choice - that's a democracy - how you can be labeled a bigot, racist, feminist etc... is beyond me
#35
Also of all the "fact" base websites - http://www.factcheck.org/ - is like the gold standard of them all.
Check it out sometime... McCain's campaign is playing loose and easy with them.
Check it out sometime... McCain's campaign is playing loose and easy with them.
#36
By the way Health care systems would still be interested in nothing but profit......loosing $$$ is not in a companies best interest !!!
#38
You still didn't tell me if I can move to the hills yet ???
#39
Move to the hills? Socialized health care out for profit?
You guys are ... Umm... not really putting up a good argument.
If I have to pay for a few people who want to mooch, then by all means, I'll do it... because I know that overall, the standard of health care (and living, as health = quality of life in MANY ways) will improve greatly for the MAJORITY of people.
You talk about how you work hard for your money, so don't want to pay for moochers? Well guess what, you're middle class dude. You'd get bent over hard if a big medical expense came your way, and your HMO didn't cover it. Then what? You'll die (or watch a family member/friend die) because nobody has the 250k for some experimental treatment?
The fact of the matter is, socialized health care works. It's not perfect, but it is SO much better than your current system that it's no contest.
And it's not profit driven. Jesus, are you that stupid? Obviously they aren't in the business of throwing money away, but that doesn't mean they are out to profit. They cut costs where they can... the thing is, the same treatment that somebody off the street in USA has to pay 50k for in your land of the free, the CDN government will pay 8 grand to have performed. They control costs. Doctors are happy, people are even happier. I'd sooner have the money available to help others than have it fill some American hospital INVESTOR's pockets.
Seriously, your grand kids would be embarrassed if they were to one day read this. "My grand-dad was a narrow minded fool." Something to that effect.
But yeah, God bless USA or whatever. Rock on.
You guys are ... Umm... not really putting up a good argument.
If I have to pay for a few people who want to mooch, then by all means, I'll do it... because I know that overall, the standard of health care (and living, as health = quality of life in MANY ways) will improve greatly for the MAJORITY of people.
You talk about how you work hard for your money, so don't want to pay for moochers? Well guess what, you're middle class dude. You'd get bent over hard if a big medical expense came your way, and your HMO didn't cover it. Then what? You'll die (or watch a family member/friend die) because nobody has the 250k for some experimental treatment?
The fact of the matter is, socialized health care works. It's not perfect, but it is SO much better than your current system that it's no contest.
And it's not profit driven. Jesus, are you that stupid? Obviously they aren't in the business of throwing money away, but that doesn't mean they are out to profit. They cut costs where they can... the thing is, the same treatment that somebody off the street in USA has to pay 50k for in your land of the free, the CDN government will pay 8 grand to have performed. They control costs. Doctors are happy, people are even happier. I'd sooner have the money available to help others than have it fill some American hospital INVESTOR's pockets.
Seriously, your grand kids would be embarrassed if they were to one day read this. "My grand-dad was a narrow minded fool." Something to that effect.
But yeah, God bless USA or whatever. Rock on.
#40
That would be great man... retire early, move to the hills, fish and hunt (if Obama lets you keep your gun) all spring, summer and fall, and snowboard all winter .
Then when I break my legs and arms snowboarding, some other sucker that works a job and gives half his paycheck to taxes will insure that the medics will come get me off that ski mountain in an ambulance helicopter and make sure I get the same great health care that they do .
Anyways, like I said people that are FOR Socialized Healthcare are either leeches or parasites on the taxpayers with nothing to lose, or extreme left wing Socialists.
I'll say it now clearly. Socialism is one step away from Communism.
You want to live in a Communist country? Move to Cuba, get the hell out.
My good friend's father left his pharmacy and everything he owned in Spain and moved his family to Cuba when the communists took over Spain. As soon as Fidel Castro took control of Cuba, my buddy and his little brother were put on a boat by their parents to return to Spain, and then to the USA. His ancestors have been fleeing from the ruling of Communist governments for the last two generations.
Socialism is one step away from Communism, according to Karl Marx.
If you don't know who he is, you're too dumb to vote.
From Wikipedia, from Karl Marx:
Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. [1] Modern socialism originated in the late nineteenth-century working class political movement. Karl Marx posited that socialism would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution, it being the transitional stage between capitalism and communism.[2][3]
Then when I break my legs and arms snowboarding, some other sucker that works a job and gives half his paycheck to taxes will insure that the medics will come get me off that ski mountain in an ambulance helicopter and make sure I get the same great health care that they do .
Anyways, like I said people that are FOR Socialized Healthcare are either leeches or parasites on the taxpayers with nothing to lose, or extreme left wing Socialists.
I'll say it now clearly. Socialism is one step away from Communism.
You want to live in a Communist country? Move to Cuba, get the hell out.
My good friend's father left his pharmacy and everything he owned in Spain and moved his family to Cuba when the communists took over Spain. As soon as Fidel Castro took control of Cuba, my buddy and his little brother were put on a boat by their parents to return to Spain, and then to the USA. His ancestors have been fleeing from the ruling of Communist governments for the last two generations.
Socialism is one step away from Communism, according to Karl Marx.
If you don't know who he is, you're too dumb to vote.
From Wikipedia, from Karl Marx:
Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. [1] Modern socialism originated in the late nineteenth-century working class political movement. Karl Marx posited that socialism would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution, it being the transitional stage between capitalism and communism.[2][3]