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#11
09-06-2008, 07:18 PM
So why not elect Barak? After all ... he's been to 57 of the states in so far:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
...and so what if he can only read a telepromter and has no idea what his speeches are about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
...and so what if he can only read a telepromter and has no idea what his speeches are about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc
#12
09-06-2008, 08:48 PM
Just something CLX and a few other proud American gun-carrying enthusiasts here already know, why gun control laws won't work and will do more harm than good.
A Little Gun Control History
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control.
From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911,Turkey established gun control.
From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938 and
from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935.
From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Guatemala established gun control in 1964.
From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970.
From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956.
From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated
in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
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Ithas now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms
to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.
The first year results are now in:
- Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent
- Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent
- Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent
(yes, 44 percent)!
In the State of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding
citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!
It will never happen here? I bet the Aussies said that too!
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward
in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase inbreak-ins and assaults of theELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how
public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended insuccessfully ridding Australian society of guns.
The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.
You won't see this data on the US evening news,
or hear politicians disseminating this information.
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind him of this history lesson.
With Guns............ We Are 'Citizens'.
Without Them........ We Are 'Subjects'.
During W.W.II the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!
Admiral Yamamoto who crafted the attack on Pearl Harbor had attended Harvard U 1919-1921 & was Naval Attacheto the U. S. 1925-28.
Most of our Navy was destroyed at Pearl Harbor & our Army had been deprived of funding & was ill prepared to defend the country.
It was reported that when asked why Japan did not follow up the Pearl Harbor attack with an invasion of the U. S. Mainland, his reply was that he had lived in the U. S. & knew that almost all households had guns.
A Little Gun Control History
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control.
From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
In 1911,Turkey established gun control.
From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
---------------------------
Germany established gun control in 1938 and
from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
China established gun control in 1935.
From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
----------------------------
Guatemala established gun control in 1964.
From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
Uganda established gun control in 1970.
From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
Cambodia established gun control in 1956.
From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
-----------------------------
Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated
in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
------------------------------
Ithas now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms
to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.
The first year results are now in:
- Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent
- Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent
- Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent
(yes, 44 percent)!
In the State of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding
citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!
It will never happen here? I bet the Aussies said that too!
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward
in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase inbreak-ins and assaults of theELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how
public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended insuccessfully ridding Australian society of guns.
The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.
You won't see this data on the US evening news,
or hear politicians disseminating this information.
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind him of this history lesson.
With Guns............ We Are 'Citizens'.
Without Them........ We Are 'Subjects'.
During W.W.II the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!
Admiral Yamamoto who crafted the attack on Pearl Harbor had attended Harvard U 1919-1921 & was Naval Attacheto the U. S. 1925-28.
Most of our Navy was destroyed at Pearl Harbor & our Army had been deprived of funding & was ill prepared to defend the country.
It was reported that when asked why Japan did not follow up the Pearl Harbor attack with an invasion of the U. S. Mainland, his reply was that he had lived in the U. S. & knew that almost all households had guns.
Last edited by Bogie; 09-06-2008 at 08:51 PM.
#13
09-07-2008, 01:06 AM
A lot of what you have posted is inaccurate. Too much for me to disect for now... Did you copy and paste that from a biased source?
#14
09-07-2008, 01:08 AM
two of the last 2 things he posted look like chain mail, which I don't support
but those two youtube videos are really good. I think everyone needs to watch that second one - that takes a lot from his credability if he has to read from a teleprompter to even continue with his speech
but those two youtube videos are really good. I think everyone needs to watch that second one - that takes a lot from his credability if he has to read from a teleprompter to even continue with his speech
#15
09-07-2008, 10:47 AM
The Gun Control History, I'm not 100% sure on, but anyone interested can reasearch the historical facts for themselves. The point is criminals and corrupt government will keep firearms and law abiding citizens will be defenseless against them. Think anyone is gonna make out ok if they try to carjack CLX? If the democrats take away our right to bear arms, he would just be handing over his car and keys to a carjacker.
As for the interviews and speeches, they speak for themselves.
And for the other issues above, I can tell you who is going to vote for Obama.
Capital Gains Tax Increase - the poverty-stricken, section 8 housing residents, and renters for life don't give a hoot about home owners having to pay capital gains taxes when they move, sell a home to retire, etc...
They don't own a home, but they also don't realize that b/c of the extra taxes, their rent will go up to cover the cost. Again, section 8 residents don't even pay their own rent, so they vote for the man promising the most hand-outs.
The same for the dividend tax and inheritance tax. Think most Section 8 housing residents even have a 401K or know what one is? Think they own stocks? Again, they don't care. They live off the tax payers.
Socialized health care, yeah that's what this country needs. In WWI and WWII we fought against the socialists. First the government provides equal health care for everyone, what's next? Equal housing, equal incomes, etc? Not that I see it going that far, but health care is already costing a big % out of our paychecks, why pay even more? Socialism will kill free market capitalism, it will eventually kill the economy.
As for the interviews and speeches, they speak for themselves.
And for the other issues above, I can tell you who is going to vote for Obama.
Capital Gains Tax Increase - the poverty-stricken, section 8 housing residents, and renters for life don't give a hoot about home owners having to pay capital gains taxes when they move, sell a home to retire, etc...
They don't own a home, but they also don't realize that b/c of the extra taxes, their rent will go up to cover the cost. Again, section 8 residents don't even pay their own rent, so they vote for the man promising the most hand-outs.
The same for the dividend tax and inheritance tax. Think most Section 8 housing residents even have a 401K or know what one is? Think they own stocks? Again, they don't care. They live off the tax payers.
Socialized health care, yeah that's what this country needs. In WWI and WWII we fought against the socialists. First the government provides equal health care for everyone, what's next? Equal housing, equal incomes, etc? Not that I see it going that far, but health care is already costing a big % out of our paychecks, why pay even more? Socialism will kill free market capitalism, it will eventually kill the economy.
#16
09-08-2008, 07:16 PM
As expected, much of the arguing stems from "how much Obama is going to cost us." Get out of Iraq, it all pays for itself.
Get out of Iraq!!! That means we lose!!!! America never loses!!!! Tell that to the thousands of families who have had sons and daughters killed. They lost. And for what? To protect or freedom from the Terrorists. To hear the Elephants talk, you would think Osama and his minions are sitting on battleships and tanks at every border, waiting to strike as soon as Obama is Elected. Then hell Yeah, get those Marines home so they can defend!
I admit, I don't agree with everything Obama has to say, nor do I dismiss everyhting McCain has to say. All I know is my life has gotten far, far worse in the last eight years. If McCain wants my vote, he needs to distance himself, like, shoot Bush to the moon, to convince me it won't be just too much of the same.
Experience means alot, but if it is the wrong experience, it serves no purpose. Oh, you've been a **** for thirty years? You must know what is right. You have been in a steadily declining government for the past eight years, and went along with it? Here is the door. I for one am willing to entrust the country to someone with less experience if he can inspire the population, get people involved who normally would just hang in the wings, and challenge the way things have been done, having not been entrenched in them for decades. My fear is that if McCain is elected, half the population (Democrats) will become disenfranchised and the other half (Republicans) will sit back with a big ol' stogie in thier mansions and say "Let it Roll." Elect new blood, get a new voice, keep the population awake, aware and involved, and no one can sit back and rest on their laurels.
No one party can solve all our problems. But one or the other can destroy all of the solutions. Vote wisely, don't believe the hype, the sound bites, the references to a dot on a larger picture. Don't take either candidate at his/her word. If you hear it, question it, research it. Several here have done their homework. Some is the party line, some is pure fiction, but if you look deep enough, you will find the truth. You owe it to yourself, your children, your country, to make the educated choice. Vote with your mind, not by the color of your state, or what you Grandfather voted. But whatever you choose, just vote.
Get out of Iraq!!! That means we lose!!!! America never loses!!!! Tell that to the thousands of families who have had sons and daughters killed. They lost. And for what? To protect or freedom from the Terrorists. To hear the Elephants talk, you would think Osama and his minions are sitting on battleships and tanks at every border, waiting to strike as soon as Obama is Elected. Then hell Yeah, get those Marines home so they can defend!
I admit, I don't agree with everything Obama has to say, nor do I dismiss everyhting McCain has to say. All I know is my life has gotten far, far worse in the last eight years. If McCain wants my vote, he needs to distance himself, like, shoot Bush to the moon, to convince me it won't be just too much of the same.
Experience means alot, but if it is the wrong experience, it serves no purpose. Oh, you've been a **** for thirty years? You must know what is right. You have been in a steadily declining government for the past eight years, and went along with it? Here is the door. I for one am willing to entrust the country to someone with less experience if he can inspire the population, get people involved who normally would just hang in the wings, and challenge the way things have been done, having not been entrenched in them for decades. My fear is that if McCain is elected, half the population (Democrats) will become disenfranchised and the other half (Republicans) will sit back with a big ol' stogie in thier mansions and say "Let it Roll." Elect new blood, get a new voice, keep the population awake, aware and involved, and no one can sit back and rest on their laurels.
No one party can solve all our problems. But one or the other can destroy all of the solutions. Vote wisely, don't believe the hype, the sound bites, the references to a dot on a larger picture. Don't take either candidate at his/her word. If you hear it, question it, research it. Several here have done their homework. Some is the party line, some is pure fiction, but if you look deep enough, you will find the truth. You owe it to yourself, your children, your country, to make the educated choice. Vote with your mind, not by the color of your state, or what you Grandfather voted. But whatever you choose, just vote.
#17
09-08-2008, 09:07 PM
You're right Kurt, and just to keep 'em on hand and fresh, I bought a humidor for my cigars this week 
.
C'mon and use your head. Think for yourself. Obama's hippy mindset isn't going to keep the USA safe. If he got elected, he vowed to stop all US missile technology and push for nuclear disarmement, basically leaving YOUR homeland defenseless from nuclear attack.
Right now, the US has a ship USS Lake Erie, that can shoot down incoming inter-continental missiles before they even break the atmosphere. They proved it by shooting down a crippled satellite very recently. So let's vote Obama and say goodbye to all our defenses. Fool.
The reason troops are overseas, is because that's where the battle is now. Be thankful there's been no sucessful attacks on YOUR mainland since 9/11, hum.. anniversary is coming up, isn't it? Did you forget?
And yes, Obama is against the US having a weapons defense system, even as much as he is for taking away your second ammendment right.
The right to bear arms.
Obama has supported banning of hundreds of rifles and shotguns commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.
Obama voted to allow the prosecution of citizens who use a firearm for self-defense in the home.
Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to put the firearms industry out of business.
Obama supported increasing taxes on firearms and ammunition by 500%.
Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.
It's all right here kids www.gunbanobama.com
.C'mon and use your head. Think for yourself. Obama's hippy mindset isn't going to keep the USA safe. If he got elected, he vowed to stop all US missile technology and push for nuclear disarmement, basically leaving YOUR homeland defenseless from nuclear attack.
Right now, the US has a ship USS Lake Erie, that can shoot down incoming inter-continental missiles before they even break the atmosphere. They proved it by shooting down a crippled satellite very recently. So let's vote Obama and say goodbye to all our defenses. Fool.
The reason troops are overseas, is because that's where the battle is now. Be thankful there's been no sucessful attacks on YOUR mainland since 9/11, hum.. anniversary is coming up, isn't it? Did you forget?
And yes, Obama is against the US having a weapons defense system, even as much as he is for taking away your second ammendment right.
The right to bear arms.
Obama has supported banning of hundreds of rifles and shotguns commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.
Obama voted to allow the prosecution of citizens who use a firearm for self-defense in the home.
Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to put the firearms industry out of business.
Obama supported increasing taxes on firearms and ammunition by 500%.
Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.
It's all right here kids www.gunbanobama.com
#18
09-09-2008, 10:12 AM
i respect that everyone has the right to their opinion but you guys quoted gun rights and removal of the troops in Iraq are obviously not concerned with the state of the US as a whole. Also, seems like you're not concerned with the view of the US from the perspective of citizens of other countries in the world. But you know... none of this is surprising... The majority of average Americans are ****** idiots when it comes to common sense, humanitarianism, capitalism, and politics. Doesn't anyone realize that there are substantially more countries out there doing better than the US.
And yea, I realize some of you guys like to go hunting... That's cool... But if you compare the lesser of two evils, it's easy to see why guns should be controlled completely. That's what I believe, but it doesn't matter because there's always gonna be atleast 1 crooked cop or official out of the hundreds in each city. Here in the DC area, high school kids can get a handgun, shotgun, or rifle for a few hundred on the street or pick up an SK, Uzi, Mack 10 or AR15 for under $1500... I definitely have respect and love for those LEOs out there doing the right thing, but unfortunately, there'll always be a bad seed in the crowd. Same as with politics and crooked politicians, churches with horny priests/pastors/reverends, and teachers with cocaine dealing teachers. Nobody considers the cons that come with the pros we all love and enjoy. DC has over 200 murders each year, Baltimore has somewhere around 250, Detroit, Newark, NYC, Cincinatti, etc... Pick any major city in the US and you can find atleast 1000 unregistered guns on the street on any given day. Especially here in our nation's capitol where it's supposed to be the safest...
It's funny how most of the people in the US don't realize that DC is one of the most dangerous places to live in the US. And this is in a city that banned gun possession for years temporarily. We spend all of our nation's money in other countries on situations and problems that really mean nothing to anyone but the to those who stand to gain from the disaster/demise of others. If we spent half of what was spent in Iraq here in the US on healthcare, we'd already have state sponsored healthcare for the majority of the population. Yes, this would screw the pockets of the healthcare companies already strangling the average american family, but it'd benefit everyone overall because that'd be more funds spent on other consumables by every citizen. That would've been all of the economic stimulus needed for the next few years.
And yea, I realize some of you guys like to go hunting... That's cool... But if you compare the lesser of two evils, it's easy to see why guns should be controlled completely. That's what I believe, but it doesn't matter because there's always gonna be atleast 1 crooked cop or official out of the hundreds in each city. Here in the DC area, high school kids can get a handgun, shotgun, or rifle for a few hundred on the street or pick up an SK, Uzi, Mack 10 or AR15 for under $1500... I definitely have respect and love for those LEOs out there doing the right thing, but unfortunately, there'll always be a bad seed in the crowd. Same as with politics and crooked politicians, churches with horny priests/pastors/reverends, and teachers with cocaine dealing teachers. Nobody considers the cons that come with the pros we all love and enjoy. DC has over 200 murders each year, Baltimore has somewhere around 250, Detroit, Newark, NYC, Cincinatti, etc... Pick any major city in the US and you can find atleast 1000 unregistered guns on the street on any given day. Especially here in our nation's capitol where it's supposed to be the safest...
It's funny how most of the people in the US don't realize that DC is one of the most dangerous places to live in the US. And this is in a city that banned gun possession for years temporarily. We spend all of our nation's money in other countries on situations and problems that really mean nothing to anyone but the to those who stand to gain from the disaster/demise of others. If we spent half of what was spent in Iraq here in the US on healthcare, we'd already have state sponsored healthcare for the majority of the population. Yes, this would screw the pockets of the healthcare companies already strangling the average american family, but it'd benefit everyone overall because that'd be more funds spent on other consumables by every citizen. That would've been all of the economic stimulus needed for the next few years.
#19
09-09-2008, 10:21 AM
As expected, much of the arguing stems from "how much Obama is going to cost us." Get out of Iraq, it all pays for itself.
Get out of Iraq!!! That means we lose!!!! America never loses!!!! Tell that to the thousands of families who have had sons and daughters killed. They lost. And for what? To protect or freedom from the Terrorists. To hear the Elephants talk, you would think Osama and his minions are sitting on battleships and tanks at every border, waiting to strike as soon as Obama is Elected. Then hell Yeah, get those Marines home so they can defend!
I admit, I don't agree with everything Obama has to say, nor do I dismiss everyhting McCain has to say. All I know is my life has gotten far, far worse in the last eight years. If McCain wants my vote, he needs to distance himself, like, shoot Bush to the moon, to convince me it won't be just too much of the same.
Experience means alot, but if it is the wrong experience, it serves no purpose. Oh, you've been a **** for thirty years? You must know what is right. You have been in a steadily declining government for the past eight years, and went along with it? Here is the door. I for one am willing to entrust the country to someone with less experience if he can inspire the population, get people involved who normally would just hang in the wings, and challenge the way things have been done, having not been entrenched in them for decades. My fear is that if McCain is elected, half the population (Democrats) will become disenfranchised and the other half (Republicans) will sit back with a big ol' stogie in thier mansions and say "Let it Roll." Elect new blood, get a new voice, keep the population awake, aware and involved, and no one can sit back and rest on their laurels.
No one party can solve all our problems. But one or the other can destroy all of the solutions. Vote wisely, don't believe the hype, the sound bites, the references to a dot on a larger picture. Don't take either candidate at his/her word. If you hear it, question it, research it. Several here have done their homework. Some is the party line, some is pure fiction, but if you look deep enough, you will find the truth. You owe it to yourself, your children, your country, to make the educated choice. Vote with your mind, not by the color of your state, or what you Grandfather voted. But whatever you choose, just vote.
Get out of Iraq!!! That means we lose!!!! America never loses!!!! Tell that to the thousands of families who have had sons and daughters killed. They lost. And for what? To protect or freedom from the Terrorists. To hear the Elephants talk, you would think Osama and his minions are sitting on battleships and tanks at every border, waiting to strike as soon as Obama is Elected. Then hell Yeah, get those Marines home so they can defend!
I admit, I don't agree with everything Obama has to say, nor do I dismiss everyhting McCain has to say. All I know is my life has gotten far, far worse in the last eight years. If McCain wants my vote, he needs to distance himself, like, shoot Bush to the moon, to convince me it won't be just too much of the same.
Experience means alot, but if it is the wrong experience, it serves no purpose. Oh, you've been a **** for thirty years? You must know what is right. You have been in a steadily declining government for the past eight years, and went along with it? Here is the door. I for one am willing to entrust the country to someone with less experience if he can inspire the population, get people involved who normally would just hang in the wings, and challenge the way things have been done, having not been entrenched in them for decades. My fear is that if McCain is elected, half the population (Democrats) will become disenfranchised and the other half (Republicans) will sit back with a big ol' stogie in thier mansions and say "Let it Roll." Elect new blood, get a new voice, keep the population awake, aware and involved, and no one can sit back and rest on their laurels.
No one party can solve all our problems. But one or the other can destroy all of the solutions. Vote wisely, don't believe the hype, the sound bites, the references to a dot on a larger picture. Don't take either candidate at his/her word. If you hear it, question it, research it. Several here have done their homework. Some is the party line, some is pure fiction, but if you look deep enough, you will find the truth. You owe it to yourself, your children, your country, to make the educated choice. Vote with your mind, not by the color of your state, or what you Grandfather voted. But whatever you choose, just vote.
#20
09-09-2008, 10:41 AM
You're right Kurt, and just to keep 'em on hand and fresh, I bought a humidor for my cigars this week .
C'mon and use your head. Think for yourself. Obama's hippy mindset isn't going to keep the USA safe. If he got elected, he vowed to stop all US missile technology and push for nuclear disarmement, basically leaving YOUR homeland defenseless from nuclear attack.
Right now, the US has a ship USS Lake Erie, that can shoot down incoming inter-continental missiles before they even break the atmosphere. They proved it by shooting down a crippled satellite very recently. So let's vote Obama and say goodbye to all our defenses. Fool.
The reason troops are overseas, is because that's where the battle is now. Be thankful there's been no sucessful attacks on YOUR mainland since 9/11, hum.. anniversary is coming up, isn't it? Did you forget?
And yes, Obama is against the US having a weapons defense system, even as much as he is for taking away your second ammendment right.
The right to bear arms.
Obama has supported banning of hundreds of rifles and shotguns commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.
Obama voted to allow the prosecution of citizens who use a firearm for self-defense in the home.
Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to put the firearms industry out of business.
Obama supported increasing taxes on firearms and ammunition by 500%.
Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.
It's all right here kids www.gunbanobama.com
.C'mon and use your head. Think for yourself. Obama's hippy mindset isn't going to keep the USA safe. If he got elected, he vowed to stop all US missile technology and push for nuclear disarmement, basically leaving YOUR homeland defenseless from nuclear attack.
Right now, the US has a ship USS Lake Erie, that can shoot down incoming inter-continental missiles before they even break the atmosphere. They proved it by shooting down a crippled satellite very recently. So let's vote Obama and say goodbye to all our defenses. Fool.
The reason troops are overseas, is because that's where the battle is now. Be thankful there's been no sucessful attacks on YOUR mainland since 9/11, hum.. anniversary is coming up, isn't it? Did you forget?
And yes, Obama is against the US having a weapons defense system, even as much as he is for taking away your second ammendment right.
The right to bear arms.
Obama has supported banning of hundreds of rifles and shotguns commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.
Obama voted to allow the prosecution of citizens who use a firearm for self-defense in the home.
Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to put the firearms industry out of business.
Obama supported increasing taxes on firearms and ammunition by 500%.
Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.
It's all right here kids www.gunbanobama.com
And above all of the petty shyt behind this entire argument... research "The Disclosure Project" (youtube, google, whatever... learn and think about it from outside the box) and how it's application to all of our world governments to bring about cooperation from government pre-identified EBE's would require a worldwide treaty on the de-militarization of space, and eventually a treaty on violence completely. The latter will probably never happen because it is part of human instinct to be aggressive/violent, but worth a try considering that our alternative may be mass extinction somewhere down the line... also, not even counting the many ways that we're exterminating ourselves right now through violence and pollution (we all love our cars, so wth... **** it, lol), there's an asteroid that's been identified by NASA that will strike Earth on it's 2nd orbit in our proximity in 2036 (first pass in 2029). It's fact at this point... Read up. NASA did a press release and it was also on the Discovery Channel. There's no solution for the problem yet, but NASA is currently working on a way to move the asteroid off it's current past slightly over a number of years... downside of that is that our scientists havent figured it out yet. EBEs that the US govt has already had contact with our probably our best hope technologically.
That's all a lot to take in, but do the research outside of American media and you'll yield similar results.