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Super charger
#11
RE: Super charger
I also wana program the variator to act as boost increase. so like on the turbo. at the begining of the RPM little boost then increase as RPM increase.
that means when like taking it slow the SC will not take too much power for it self, then as you incerase RPM more boost build but more power taking.
smart, ahh.
so at low RPM you have low output then increases and also it would be safer.
I'm thinking of puting at low RPM like 1-5 psi and at hight 7-12psi. so the curve of power is a very steep one. pushing to like 300 -350 HP at full throtle and close to stock at idle.
also switchible mods from eco, which would be a bit eco that stock making about 120-150HP then normal 160-190HP then race 200-250HP then Pro-race 260-300 then @ss woping 310-350HP
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whoever will forge internals and lower compresion ratio will have DITSDA (Dead in the seat during acceleration) 360-450HP and whoever craeasy enough will have Full which is 460-480HP and "Aub Kraft" will have 460-500HP pushing SC to produce about 30PSI. and not forget intercooler which will add extra ponies.
that means when like taking it slow the SC will not take too much power for it self, then as you incerase RPM more boost build but more power taking.
smart, ahh.
so at low RPM you have low output then increases and also it would be safer.
I'm thinking of puting at low RPM like 1-5 psi and at hight 7-12psi. so the curve of power is a very steep one. pushing to like 300 -350 HP at full throtle and close to stock at idle.
also switchible mods from eco, which would be a bit eco that stock making about 120-150HP then normal 160-190HP then race 200-250HP then Pro-race 260-300 then @ss woping 310-350HP
And
whoever will forge internals and lower compresion ratio will have DITSDA (Dead in the seat during acceleration) 360-450HP and whoever craeasy enough will have Full which is 460-480HP and "Aub Kraft" will have 460-500HP pushing SC to produce about 30PSI. and not forget intercooler which will add extra ponies.
#12
RE: Super charger
I'll be your 12v guinea pig, if you fly out to Oregon, or let me crash on your couch while you work on it...
Let me know when you have it planned out, I'm intrigued by a 12v SC option... I was previously thinking about swapping a 30v ans going SC on that, but if this works out like you say... ---->
Nate
Let me know when you have it planned out, I'm intrigued by a 12v SC option... I was previously thinking about swapping a 30v ans going SC on that, but if this works out like you say... ---->
Nate
#13
RE: Super charger
First, I will have to choose a variator type and desighn. I have three choises, constant as direct no boost control, then step variator goes by like diferent levels of power output, or constant variator wich will give me constant boost control.
its all in my mind.
if you want something like my design but cheap, with M62 blower I will be glad to desighn and make.
the diference is that M62 tops at 8psi after that you have to overdrive it which is bad. and if use intercooler it will drop to like 6 or 7 psi.
Nate074 what car do you have?
its all in my mind.
if you want something like my design but cheap, with M62 blower I will be glad to desighn and make.
the diference is that M62 tops at 8psi after that you have to overdrive it which is bad. and if use intercooler it will drop to like 6 or 7 psi.
Nate074 what car do you have?
#15
RE: Super charger
ye sure, it will fit any V6 engine, not turbo. You wont even see it.
I'm guesing on diferent types of kits. they seperate into groups of boost levels.
1. already set boost level on like 5 psi 7 psi 10psi 15 psi 20 psi 25 psi 30psi and maybe 35 psi
2. variable boost level 3-10psi 5-13 psi 10-15psi 15-20psi etc...
I think I will make default kit 1. at 7 psi.
additionals
Variator
optionals:
Intercooler
full set of pulles
The numbers are exaples.
But defenatly if its finished it wont cost 5300 buks. thats just silly. its easier to sell your car, add that money and buy S# car or even RS#
As I predict The cost should start at like 1500 buks or even less. and top at like 3500 buks with all options. I dont know If I will include piggy back, couse I'm not going to chip. but defenatly will work on the matrix for piggy back, maybe injectors too.
My SC is monted on the engine block not engine head.
I gues when I finish school, which is in a month, I will start actually puting it together.
I'm guesing on diferent types of kits. they seperate into groups of boost levels.
1. already set boost level on like 5 psi 7 psi 10psi 15 psi 20 psi 25 psi 30psi and maybe 35 psi
2. variable boost level 3-10psi 5-13 psi 10-15psi 15-20psi etc...
I think I will make default kit 1. at 7 psi.
additionals
Variator
optionals:
Intercooler
full set of pulles
The numbers are exaples.
But defenatly if its finished it wont cost 5300 buks. thats just silly. its easier to sell your car, add that money and buy S# car or even RS#
As I predict The cost should start at like 1500 buks or even less. and top at like 3500 buks with all options. I dont know If I will include piggy back, couse I'm not going to chip. but defenatly will work on the matrix for piggy back, maybe injectors too.
My SC is monted on the engine block not engine head.
I gues when I finish school, which is in a month, I will start actually puting it together.
#16
RE: Super charger
got any pics of the project yet? got any leads for a company making forged pistons, and/or rods for an a4 v6?? possibly a crank, maybe just cryo treaded crank would be fine. Ps i only know of a 2-wheel dyno up here in alaska but would love to find an awd dyno if it weren't to far into canada. anyone know of any?
#17
RE: Super charger
Nope not yet, I will start during summer.
I hope I will find leads on forged pistons and valves, and maybe a spacer to decrease the compresion ratio.
First finish school, get acepted into college.
Second work on the blower project and my guitar project.
I hope I will find leads on forged pistons and valves, and maybe a spacer to decrease the compresion ratio.
First finish school, get acepted into college.
Second work on the blower project and my guitar project.
#18
RE: Super charger
quiqk question. would you like to serpanten belt to fell or variator?
facts:
it is easy to replace a serpanten belt. but more expensive.
and variator if fails then its a bit harder to replace. but cheaper.
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second question:
would you like controling boost on fly [while reving]
or you would like to like switch at idle?
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third question:
what boost levels whould you like?
and levels to switch between?
note: dont make it too big of a diference.
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fourth question:
would you like running bifueled or dual fuel system or monofuel?
note: bifueled system, running on both fuels, like propane and gasoline. dual runing one or another. monofueled only first or second fuel.
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progress:
thout of two types of variators. one that can damage serpanten belt ar switching between. and second that damages it self when switched.
I will develop two types of kits. one that uses M90 , and second that uses M62. both will come with IC as an option. Cryon system utilization optional, also anti drowning system w/side afect. also variator optional only for M90. set of pullies optional.
I think M90 will start at like 1500-2000 and M62 will start at like 1000-1600 buks.
facts:
it is easy to replace a serpanten belt. but more expensive.
and variator if fails then its a bit harder to replace. but cheaper.
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second question:
would you like controling boost on fly [while reving]
or you would like to like switch at idle?
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third question:
what boost levels whould you like?
and levels to switch between?
note: dont make it too big of a diference.
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fourth question:
would you like running bifueled or dual fuel system or monofuel?
note: bifueled system, running on both fuels, like propane and gasoline. dual runing one or another. monofueled only first or second fuel.
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progress:
thout of two types of variators. one that can damage serpanten belt ar switching between. and second that damages it self when switched.
I will develop two types of kits. one that uses M90 , and second that uses M62. both will come with IC as an option. Cryon system utilization optional, also anti drowning system w/side afect. also variator optional only for M90. set of pullies optional.
I think M90 will start at like 1500-2000 and M62 will start at like 1000-1600 buks.
#19
RE: Super charger
new update, I beleve if I use no variator, a bypass valve can be used as a boost control.
the problem is some power will be lost in the proces.
And back to the variator,
I calulate and design a variator with right now 3 speeds.
when runing on stock pulley that will be provided, you will be able to switch between 2-3 psi which is kind of switch.
second speed will be running on 93 octane and about 6-9 psi.
third speed will be running on race fuel or propane/CNG and about 10-15psi.
and you will be have a extra pulley just that you could run also 3 speeds of 6-9psi, 10-15psi and 15-20psi.
and for crazy bastarts you will have another pully running same 3 speeds of 10-15psi, 15-20psi, and 22-30psi
also for people who will just want a constant boost without wories about variator or longlife you will have no variator. and direct drive.
also for cheap kit you will have a M62 blower w/ direct drive making same or similar numbers as PES G2 or G3 :-(
note the numbers are samples, acual values will vary with your engine desplacement, and of absents/presents of IC and of style of intake manifold. :-)
the problem is some power will be lost in the proces.
And back to the variator,
I calulate and design a variator with right now 3 speeds.
when runing on stock pulley that will be provided, you will be able to switch between 2-3 psi which is kind of switch.
second speed will be running on 93 octane and about 6-9 psi.
third speed will be running on race fuel or propane/CNG and about 10-15psi.
and you will be have a extra pulley just that you could run also 3 speeds of 6-9psi, 10-15psi and 15-20psi.
and for crazy bastarts you will have another pully running same 3 speeds of 10-15psi, 15-20psi, and 22-30psi
also for people who will just want a constant boost without wories about variator or longlife you will have no variator. and direct drive.
also for cheap kit you will have a M62 blower w/ direct drive making same or similar numbers as PES G2 or G3 :-(
note the numbers are samples, acual values will vary with your engine desplacement, and of absents/presents of IC and of style of intake manifold. :-)
#20
RE: Super charger
I got a q. where is this s/c gonna sit, cause you said you want to keep your kit hidden. That would be ok with me but would it not be easier to set her on top like the pes is isn't that were a roots type belongs? I know that on my dads 350z vortech (centrifical type) kit he has a serpanten belt the spin with the oem system but on the other end of that gear is a cog type gear of which drives his super charger which would be fine by me. Would that be considered variator. I think so.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/ga...ort=1&cat=3211 350z system
2.On the go boost would be nice, but dot have to have, ps i would like to boost gradually to max not wam bam good bye quattro.
3. Well i dont have forged internals whats a good level to start with?5-7psi?
4. Probably runing mono btw here in ak 90 oct is premium so i gotta watch the mix.
What all would your kit include, say i want to start with making the power a pes kit does but room to upgrade with an m90. If i can find a place the make forged rod and pistons maybe bump up the psi to 12-15
http://files.automotiveforums.com/ga...ort=1&cat=3211 350z system
2.On the go boost would be nice, but dot have to have, ps i would like to boost gradually to max not wam bam good bye quattro.
3. Well i dont have forged internals whats a good level to start with?5-7psi?
4. Probably runing mono btw here in ak 90 oct is premium so i gotta watch the mix.
What all would your kit include, say i want to start with making the power a pes kit does but room to upgrade with an m90. If i can find a place the make forged rod and pistons maybe bump up the psi to 12-15