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Old 09-27-2005 | 03:01 AM
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gmatov Your accusations are very offensive.. My dad has been a mechanic/body specialist for his entire life.. He has owned many of his own car dealerships that he started ON HIS OWN and ran ON HIS OWN and taught most of his mechanics himself.. We know what it takes.. He has a friend that owns a business down town here that will make drive shafts for him for somewhere around $50. No major sheetmetal revision will have to happen besides maybe a larger k-bar. And rear wheel drive because I'm not doing circuit raceing it will be doing drag.. And to your question Offramp it will be a rear wheel drive but with the standard still.. Also I'm pretty sure what were gonna do (since we have the truck that has the engine in it that we want and it has the transmission (standard) as well we may just make a few mods to that and drop it into the audi with the transmission.. I'm not really sure yet were going to wait untill winter.. Also to you gmatov I really wish you would be a little more considerate..
 
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Old 09-27-2005 | 11:20 AM
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Gnusmas if you have taken time to read some of the Gmatov old posts you will certainly see that he has quite a bit if not a lot of knowledge and has been working on various makes and models for a long time. He is not a teenager.

Most of us here are Audi enthusiast and really don't like to see them mutilated. It's like taking a vintage Porsche 911 droping a 350 in the trunk and attaching a solid axle. As for your drag strip venture I don't think that it is going to be all that straight forward. I see at least two pitfalls with your project. I am quite certain that you will need to cut, weld and fabricate. In the end I don't think you will have anything worthwhile or competitive.

If you want to impress, here is a target to shoot for:
1986 Audi 5000 CS Turbo Quattro Talladega
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In any case good luck with the project!
 
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Old 09-28-2005 | 02:09 AM
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Well trust me I would LOVE to keep this car with all of the audi parts and everything but I can't seem to find any parts for this car.. Any parts I have "seemed" to find are just stock replacement parts.. Maybe theres something I dont know? I know theres a lot I dont know so thats why I came here. Pretty much all I have gotten so far from anyone on here was "Buy a different audi".. Well I don't intend on doing that. So does anyone have any other comments as to helping me make this car a bit more powerful? Without engine swaps or buying a different car. I would be very much obliged..

Offramp I was not sayen that he was stupid or that he didn't know what he was talking about I was just saying that I was insulted by some of his comments about my dad's knowledge and my knowledge. I never said that we wouldn't have to do ANY cutting, welding, or fabricateing. I knew there would be some involved.

Also since this car has been sitting for two years the car doesn't start now. It will start with spraying starting fluid into the intake which shows me that it isn't getting fuel and I have also taken off some of the fuel lines and they were bone dry. The car has gas in it (fresh gas that I just put in) but I'm guessing that it was probably not drained thuroughly when the car was put in storage and over time, as you all know, gas turns into laqour.. So I was thinking maybe the lines are clogged, the pressure regulator is clogged or something like this? Do any of you have any ideas on what it could be? Also does this vehicl have a pre-pump? Maybe that could be what is wrong.. Thanks!
 
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Old 09-28-2005 | 11:15 PM
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The Audi chassis is fairly strong and heavy as result. If you do some Google searching you will find some information as to how to increase power on your stock motor. The maxim I have read for the 5-cyl 10V turbo with CIS injection is about ~260BHP it can be easily achieved with a modified waste gate spring and a recalibrated ECU. The ECU has to be adjusted so that the computer doesn’t shut off the fuel, thinking that there is an over boost condition. Go to SJMautotechnik.com and you should find some information.

As far as the starting problem with you car! I think that you need to prime the system. CIS mechanical injection doesn’t like any air. Pull the injectors out and place them in a fuel proof container. Remove the rubber boot/bellows on the air flow sensor, jump the fuel pump relay and lift the sensor plate. Fuel should start flowing out of the injectors. The higher you lift the plate the more fuel will flow. Keep a fire extinguisher handy!
 
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Old 09-30-2005 | 02:19 AM
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OK thank you Offramp. I appreciate your help and advice.

Do you know of any online manuals for this car or anything that could show me how to do the things that you have listed for the CIS injection? I have found a schematic for a CIS mechanical injection system but it wasn't for this car so that only helped a little.. Thank you!
 
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Old 10-02-2005 | 02:17 AM
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You can buy a manual for this car, a Haynes manual, for about 20 bucks. Not as good as the Bentley's.

Nor does it specifically cover the Quattro, mostly short in the rear wheel and Torsen (if the 86 had Torsen.). Other than that, the engine mechanicals, front drive, suspension, electrical, again, barring any electricals relating to the Quattro, specifically, should be the same, or enough to make most repairs.

http://www.books4cars.com/result1.ht...&findmake=Audi

http://www.themotorbookstore.com/audi1.html

Those are 2 sites to sell you manuals, some for less than 20 bucks, some for way more (Bentley's). You won't go wrong with the Bentley's, way more depth, complete tear down, rebuild, with all measurements, tool nos., etc.

You could, just possibly, do what you are talking about. It is going to take major sheetmetal work. Mechanical work, too.

Front CV joints hold the front wheels on. As far as the driveshaft tunnel, gas tank is under the rear seat, no clearance for the driveshaft there, either. I suppose you could attach a solid axle and differential to the track arms, laterals, etc., that hold the present rear axle in place. Underside of my Audi is packed with exhaust components, where they are on a Quattro, to make room for the drive shaft, I don't know

You have to rip out all the electricals, too, as the Audi is a sophisticated electronically controlled motive system, numerous computers, even in '86. Chevy 350, clip 12 volts on, good to go.

I should, maybe, mitigate my first post. I still don't think you and your dad know just what you are trying to do, and how far you have to go.

Why you would butcher an Audi in this fashion, I haven't the foggiest notion. Just go buy a Chevy Impala from the 80s and go to town.

And, too, you are pickin' the motor/tranny out of a truck. You expect to hit 140 in the 1/4 with a deep geared truck tranny/axle combo.? Torque, it will make, MPH it will not. You'll be too light to pull a house down, as a good four speed truck can, and spin the wheels too slow to be competitive on the track, IF you can cram this stuff into an Audi shell, and get it to move reliably. 5 speed, forget it, couple of my kids have them, they have to start out in first, empty, I pull out with a 5400 pound trailer in second with my 4 speed Ford F150, 6 cyl 300 CI. But I top out at about 75 MPH.

Anything CAN be done. Whether it makes sense monetarily or mechanically is the question.

Cheers,

George
 
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Old 10-03-2005 | 04:12 AM
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Ok also I think I need to really find out what this car is.. I mean from what I have read on the internet I haven't read anything that seems to describe my car exactly.. (In names of models and such) This car says Quattro on it but it also says Coupe on the rear hatch.. And it also has turbo. So what is it? A Quattro Coupe turbo?.. Hmm

Oh and gmatov I have also decided (as I have stated in previous posts) that I'm dropping the idea of putting the 305 in it.. I think I'm just gonna try and do what I can do with this car alone.. So now that is that do you have any suggestions as to what I should do, gmatov?
 
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Old 10-03-2005 | 01:18 PM
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Does it look like this:

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or like this:

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If it’s the latter then you have a very rare model that made Quattro a house hold name and is worth some $$$ depending on the condition.
 
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Old 10-04-2005 | 04:16 AM
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Gnu,

I think it's a hatchback, a turbo quattro, almost bought one a few years back, my daughter didn't like the looks, kinda like a wagon with a sloped rear end. I think they're ugly, too. Much prefer the sedan, or 4 door, if you will.

I think you should get it to run as well as you can as is, see if you can get mod chips, etc., after you get it running as is. You might just be surprised at what they will do, as is. They go like hell, as is.

They're hustlin' machines, as is. Enjoy a great piece of machinery before you go to changing things. You just might decide to get the proverbial Chevy Impala to make a race car out of. Or, clean clocks with your stock Audi.

They really are damned good machines.

Cheers,

George

You can call me George, it is my real name.
 
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Old 10-04-2005 | 12:04 PM
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This car says Quattro on it but it also says Coupe on the rear hatch..
Man you got a great car there. I wouldn't do a thing to change the way it is now. Get that puppy running and you will be surprised at what she will do for you. As stated earlier, you got a classic there, don't change her at all. [sm=badidea.gif]

You got any picture of her that you can post?

Back in the '80's I was this close to buying one of them. Now I can kick myself that I didn't. [sm=smiley24.gif] They are a sweet ride.
 


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