Spacer opinion pleasee!!!!!!!!!!!!
#11
racing or not your going to chew thru your tires faster. also, i dont know the laws where you are, but in my state, its illegal to have your wheels stick out past the fender.
all the other cars you are talking about are audis? other cars dont have our 4 link suspension. audis dont have camber adjustment without aftermarket parts. you can move the engine cradle to even out the camber between the sides, but you cant do anything to actualy zero in the wheels. the larger the spacer you put on, the less time your tires will last. if you dont mind replacing your rubber every 10k miles, then throw some 20mms on there.
all the other cars you are talking about are audis? other cars dont have our 4 link suspension. audis dont have camber adjustment without aftermarket parts. you can move the engine cradle to even out the camber between the sides, but you cant do anything to actualy zero in the wheels. the larger the spacer you put on, the less time your tires will last. if you dont mind replacing your rubber every 10k miles, then throw some 20mms on there.
Adding wheels spacers will not negatively affect your alignment enough to notice. In general, excess camber will wear a tire more on the inner tread, but over a very long period of time, as long as the toe is correct. Toe is what destroys our tries quickly.
Ghost, I hear what you're saying, but you have to remember, most of us dump our cars, which puts an A4 WAY out of it's suggested camber range and beyond adjustment. As long as it's even, it's OK. Worrying about the negative effects of wheels spacers is nothing compared to lowering.
Additionally, if you stick with a name brand spacer such as H&R (and pretty much only H&R), you won't have to worry about hub-centric vs. lug-centric (because they are often both!).
With that in mind, I suggest pa4ul lowers his car and forgets the wheel spacers.
#12
i'm running 6mm spacers all around because i can't fit 18x8 wheels with 245/40 tires under there. no the tires were not my choice. i've driven my car a couple thousand miles since and haven't had any issues at all. just make sure you have everything lined up so you're not out of balance. i got an alignment after i installed everything too. i also have a ~80 pound system in the trunk with my school books. the rears have camber adjustments but i don't think the front does. the front has toe adjustments though.
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#13
hwo much average does it cost to lower an a4 with quality parts. Keep in mind im on a college budget so money dosent come that quick. But either way u said that spacers really wont affect it as bad as everyone says correct tweakd? If i drop my car the wheels will still sit in the wheel well though i wanted them to be at least even with the front tires. Well thanks for the info u have all been way more help then all the other damn forums ive posted at. Ill let u know what i decide and anyone else who reads this post pics of ur car so i can get a better idea.
#14
To lower it right (parts, not labor):
Eibachs or H&R: @ $200
Bilstein heavy Duty Shocks: @ $500
Or you can go with a coilover kit from a number of different manufacturers if you want a custom ride height, but they usually cost more.
I'm not saying you shouldn't align the car... you definitely should. Put the spacers on and have it aligned. Have it done at an Audi dealer or an Audi specialist. Ask for a printout (with before and after measurements), then post it here. As long as your camber isn't uneven or ridiculous, you'll be fine. Be honest though... when I was in college I drove a '91 falling-to-pieces Taurus SHO. If you were really worried about cashflow, you'd ditch the 19's!!
Hiwords: lower that monster truck! And again, the front DOES have adjustable camber. It requires moving the subframe.
Eibachs or H&R: @ $200
Bilstein heavy Duty Shocks: @ $500
Or you can go with a coilover kit from a number of different manufacturers if you want a custom ride height, but they usually cost more.
I'm not saying you shouldn't align the car... you definitely should. Put the spacers on and have it aligned. Have it done at an Audi dealer or an Audi specialist. Ask for a printout (with before and after measurements), then post it here. As long as your camber isn't uneven or ridiculous, you'll be fine. Be honest though... when I was in college I drove a '91 falling-to-pieces Taurus SHO. If you were really worried about cashflow, you'd ditch the 19's!!
Hiwords: lower that monster truck! And again, the front DOES have adjustable camber. It requires moving the subframe.
#17
Up front, the whole subframe can be moved back and forth to even out the camber by loosening the subframe bolts and shifting it with a large prybar. In back, if it's a quattro, there are camber eccentrics buried above the wheel carrier. Hard to reach, but a couple offset wrenches or innovative extensions will get you there. That's why I'd recommend an Audi shop or specialist... they should know what they can do to get the car right vs. the average Pep-Boys or Town Fair.
#18
well up front you can move the engine cradle from side to side to even the camber between the wheels (ie. if you have 2* on the right side and 4* on the left, you can make it so both wheels have 3* on them, so its even on both sides) but there is no adjustment for zeroing the wheels without an aftermarket camber plate. thats what i was saying.
#19
well up front you can move the engine cradle from side to side to even the camber between the wheels (ie. if you have 2* on the right side and 4* on the left, you can make it so both wheels have 3* on them, so its even on both sides) but there is no adjustment for zeroing the wheels without an aftermarket camber plate. thats what i was saying.
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