New Europlate
#22
04-30-2010 | 11:12 AM
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From: Saint Petersburg, FL
VA has the same stupid law. It's not illegal to have the europlate on your car.
But if your state requires to plates, not having one becomes the problem, where you could get a ticket. I've managed in the past to get away with it, and lots of corvette owners I know don't have front plates. VA has an interesting front plate law because the actual law section reads that the plate must be within 15 inchs of the front of the vehicle. I actually mounted the plate on my Trans Am up on the air dam under the bumper, you could just barely see if, but it was 100% legal. I actually got stopped once over it at the beach by several bike cops who checked the law, where baffled and then let me go.
So do your research, determine what you're willing to do. There is another guy here in Va Beach who has a europlate and has his front plate zip tied just like you.
I'm just going to run without. No front plate isn't a moving violation, so whats a 35 dollar fine.
The other factor is, if you race around you might draw more attention to yourself. I don't look like a thug, so cops don't ever notice me.
But if your state requires to plates, not having one becomes the problem, where you could get a ticket. I've managed in the past to get away with it, and lots of corvette owners I know don't have front plates. VA has an interesting front plate law because the actual law section reads that the plate must be within 15 inchs of the front of the vehicle. I actually mounted the plate on my Trans Am up on the air dam under the bumper, you could just barely see if, but it was 100% legal. I actually got stopped once over it at the beach by several bike cops who checked the law, where baffled and then let me go.
So do your research, determine what you're willing to do. There is another guy here in Va Beach who has a europlate and has his front plate zip tied just like you.
I'm just going to run without. No front plate isn't a moving violation, so whats a 35 dollar fine.
The other factor is, if you race around you might draw more attention to yourself. I don't look like a thug, so cops don't ever notice me.
#23
04-30-2010 | 11:24 AM
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Joined: May 2009
Posts: 468
From: Syracuse New York
ya i know what you mean by that...the only reason my front plate is zip tied is because when i got the s4 front bumper it didnt have the license plate frame and i didnt wanna drill holes in it, but ill see if i find the law on front plates up here in NY if i can have it just showing the numbers/letters ill bend it and fit it into one of the grill areas and then mount the euro where it should be!
#24
04-30-2010 | 12:37 PM
A little Ohio fun... If you read this you may see where what I plan on doing to my plates... And search online you also may find a "loophole" in your states law! But be sure of your sources and plan on being pulled over to enplane yourself!
4503.21 Display of license plates and validation stickers or temporary license placard or windshield sticker.
(A) No person who is the owner or operator of a motor vehicle shall fail to display in plain view on the front and rear of the motor vehicle the distinctive number and registration mark, including any county identification sticker and any validation sticker issued under sections 4503.19 and 4503.191 of the Revised Code, furnished by the director of public safety, except that a manufacturer of motor vehicles or dealer therein, the holder of an in transit permit, and the owner or operator of a motorcycle, motorized bicycle, manufactured home, mobile home, trailer, or semitrailer shall display on the rear only. A motor vehicle that is issued two license plates shall display the validation sticker only on the rear license plate, except that a commercial tractor that does not receive an apportioned license plate under the international registration plan shall display the validation sticker on the front of the commercial tractor. An apportioned vehicle receiving an apportioned license plate under the international registration plan shall display the license plate only on the front of a commercial tractor and on the rear of all other vehicles. All license plates shall be securely fastened so as not to swing, and shall not be covered by any material that obstructs their visibility.
No person to whom a temporary license placard or windshield sticker has been issued for the use of a motor vehicle under section 4503.182 of the Revised Code, and no operator of that motor vehicle, shall fail to display the temporary license placard in plain view from the rear of the vehicle either in the rear window or on an external rear surface of the motor vehicle, or fail to display the windshield sticker in plain view on the rear window of the motor vehicle. No temporary license placard or windshield sticker shall be covered by any material that obstructs its visibility.
(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of a minor misdemeanor.
(A) No person who is the owner or operator of a motor vehicle shall fail to display in plain view on the front and rear of the motor vehicle the distinctive number and registration mark, including any county identification sticker and any validation sticker issued under sections 4503.19 and 4503.191 of the Revised Code, furnished by the director of public safety, except that a manufacturer of motor vehicles or dealer therein, the holder of an in transit permit, and the owner or operator of a motorcycle, motorized bicycle, manufactured home, mobile home, trailer, or semitrailer shall display on the rear only. A motor vehicle that is issued two license plates shall display the validation sticker only on the rear license plate, except that a commercial tractor that does not receive an apportioned license plate under the international registration plan shall display the validation sticker on the front of the commercial tractor. An apportioned vehicle receiving an apportioned license plate under the international registration plan shall display the license plate only on the front of a commercial tractor and on the rear of all other vehicles. All license plates shall be securely fastened so as not to swing, and shall not be covered by any material that obstructs their visibility.
No person to whom a temporary license placard or windshield sticker has been issued for the use of a motor vehicle under section 4503.182 of the Revised Code, and no operator of that motor vehicle, shall fail to display the temporary license placard in plain view from the rear of the vehicle either in the rear window or on an external rear surface of the motor vehicle, or fail to display the windshield sticker in plain view on the rear window of the motor vehicle. No temporary license placard or windshield sticker shall be covered by any material that obstructs its visibility.
(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of a minor misdemeanor.
4503.22 Specifications for license plates.
The identification license plate shall consist of a placard upon the face of which shall appear the distinctive number assigned to the motor vehicle as provided in section 4503.19 of the Revised Code, in Arabic numerals or letters, or both. The dimensions of the numerals or letters and of each stroke shall be determined by the director of public safety. The license placard also shall contain the name of this state and the slogan “BIRTHPLACE OF AVIATION.” The placard shall be made of steel and the background shall be treated with a reflective material that shall provide effective and dependable reflective brightness during the service period required of the placard. Specifications for the reflective and other materials and the design of the placard, the county identification stickers as provided by section 4503.19 of the Revised Code, and validation stickers as provided by section 4503.191 of the Revised Code, shall be adopted by the director as rules under sections 119.01 to 119.13 of the Revised Code. The identification license plate of motorized bicycles and of motor vehicles of the type commonly called “motorcycles” shall consist of a single placard, the size of which shall be prescribed by the director. The identification plate of a vehicle registered in accordance with the international registration plan shall contain the word “apportioned.” The director may prescribe the type of placard, or means of fastening the placard, or both; the placard or means of fastening may be so designed and constructed as to render difficult the removal of the placard after it has been fastened to a motor vehicle.
The identification license plate shall consist of a placard upon the face of which shall appear the distinctive number assigned to the motor vehicle as provided in section 4503.19 of the Revised Code, in Arabic numerals or letters, or both. The dimensions of the numerals or letters and of each stroke shall be determined by the director of public safety. The license placard also shall contain the name of this state and the slogan “BIRTHPLACE OF AVIATION.” The placard shall be made of steel and the background shall be treated with a reflective material that shall provide effective and dependable reflective brightness during the service period required of the placard. Specifications for the reflective and other materials and the design of the placard, the county identification stickers as provided by section 4503.19 of the Revised Code, and validation stickers as provided by section 4503.191 of the Revised Code, shall be adopted by the director as rules under sections 119.01 to 119.13 of the Revised Code. The identification license plate of motorized bicycles and of motor vehicles of the type commonly called “motorcycles” shall consist of a single placard, the size of which shall be prescribed by the director. The identification plate of a vehicle registered in accordance with the international registration plan shall contain the word “apportioned.” The director may prescribe the type of placard, or means of fastening the placard, or both; the placard or means of fastening may be so designed and constructed as to render difficult the removal of the placard after it has been fastened to a motor vehicle.
#25
04-30-2010 | 01:09 PM
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Joined: Mar 2010
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From: Tulsa
The only thing I didn't see clarified was "The dimensions of the numerals or letters and of each stroke shall be determined by the director of public safety."
Otherwise, I'd print all that out and keep it in the glovebox
I am fortunate to live in a state without front plates.
#26
04-30-2010 | 03:07 PM
I just skimmed the last bit, but it looks like you're good if you have the numbers, the state name, the slogan and the sticker (if applicable) and it's made of similar "reflective" materials.
The only thing I didn't see clarified was "The dimensions of the numerals or letters and of each stroke shall be determined by the director of public safety."
Otherwise, I'd print all that out and keep it in the glovebox
I am fortunate to live in a state without front plates.
The only thing I didn't see clarified was "The dimensions of the numerals or letters and of each stroke shall be determined by the director of public safety."
Otherwise, I'd print all that out and keep it in the glovebox
I am fortunate to live in a state without front plates.
Now I do plan on getting pulled over that's almost a given. Why? Because I can bet that most cops wont know that it acceptable. So yeah I might be inconvenienced once in awhile. But some slick looking Euro all around will be worth it... Now its just the fact of finding a trunk lid!
#27
04-30-2010 | 06:36 PM
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Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 348
From: Tulsa
You pretty much nailed it but that is for front and rear plates! I'm working on getting a euro trunk. Then going full Euro plates! I'll keep DMV issued plates in the car incase of questions but yep no where does it state it has ot be the plate issued by the DMV just matching #'s county and exp. sticker and "Birth Place of Aviation"
Now I do plan on getting pulled over that's almost a given. Why? Because I can bet that most cops wont know that it acceptable. So yeah I might be inconvenienced once in awhile. But some slick looking Euro all around will be worth it... Now its just the fact of finding a trunk lid!
Now I do plan on getting pulled over that's almost a given. Why? Because I can bet that most cops wont know that it acceptable. So yeah I might be inconvenienced once in awhile. But some slick looking Euro all around will be worth it... Now its just the fact of finding a trunk lid!
#29
04-30-2010 | 09:10 PM
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Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 591
From: NC
A little off topic but...
My car is registered in MA where front plates are required. I'll soon have my car exclusively in NC, but using MA plates. I'm pretty sure I'd be safe running without the tacky front plate, but what do you guys think?
My car is registered in MA where front plates are required. I'll soon have my car exclusively in NC, but using MA plates. I'm pretty sure I'd be safe running without the tacky front plate, but what do you guys think?
Last edited by Skythe; 05-01-2010 at 01:44 AM.
#30
04-30-2010 | 10:59 PM
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Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 911
From: Saint Petersburg, FL
Well I live right next to the NC line in VA Beach and frequent OBX a bit, and I think NC requires front plates too, as I always see people with them.
On a side note, my Plate which I ordered the other day is schedule to arrive on Tuesday. I order my S5 LED headlamps on Monday and those F*ers are coming from CA and won't be here till Friday. I hate eBay for the reason that most sellers rip you off 100% on shipping. Charged me 44 dollars to ship a 13lbs package the slowest method possible. FedEx says it would cost $20.11 Flat Rate is always BS. GRRR. When I get the plate I'll post up pictures and let you know about the quality. I only got the free universal frame.
On a side note, my Plate which I ordered the other day is schedule to arrive on Tuesday. I order my S5 LED headlamps on Monday and those F*ers are coming from CA and won't be here till Friday. I hate eBay for the reason that most sellers rip you off 100% on shipping. Charged me 44 dollars to ship a 13lbs package the slowest method possible. FedEx says it would cost $20.11 Flat Rate is always BS. GRRR. When I get the plate I'll post up pictures and let you know about the quality. I only got the free universal frame.
Last edited by mikekey; 04-30-2010 at 11:06 PM.