My 1999 A4 2.8 Quattro died in the middle of the road...
#1
My 1999 A4 2.8 Quattro died in the middle of the road...
Hi everyone,
I was hoping someone might be able to help shed some light on what's going on with my A4. This evening, my wife was driving it home and made it seven of the eight miles when the car suddenly lost power and stopped in the middle of the road. She thinks she was actually accelerating when it happened. The steering wheel locked up and pulled towards the center, then the car stopped, although the radio and other electronics seemed ok. She turned off the car and tried to start it again. It weakly cranked and did not start.
After I arrived on the scene, I noticed that the power steering reservoir cap was completely undone. I had gotten the oil changed two days ago and they had commented that there was too much power steering fluid so they corrected the level. Clearly, they left the cap off. I didn't see any signs that any of it leaked out, though.
I tried starting the car several times with about five minutes between each try. Finally, despite weak cranking, the engine started. However, the engine was making a sound I would describe as a sputtering or muffled cluttering. I was then able to drive it home.
I replaced the battery only last year and the battery meter on the dashboard appeared normal once the car started. Also, there is no check engine light and no codes (I checked with an OBDII reader).
Can any of you offer ideas on what could have caused this? Could it be as simple as bad spark plugs/wires? I think I am overdue on replacing them... Could the unscrewed power steering cap have anything to do with it?
Thanks much,
-Allen
I was hoping someone might be able to help shed some light on what's going on with my A4. This evening, my wife was driving it home and made it seven of the eight miles when the car suddenly lost power and stopped in the middle of the road. She thinks she was actually accelerating when it happened. The steering wheel locked up and pulled towards the center, then the car stopped, although the radio and other electronics seemed ok. She turned off the car and tried to start it again. It weakly cranked and did not start.
After I arrived on the scene, I noticed that the power steering reservoir cap was completely undone. I had gotten the oil changed two days ago and they had commented that there was too much power steering fluid so they corrected the level. Clearly, they left the cap off. I didn't see any signs that any of it leaked out, though.
I tried starting the car several times with about five minutes between each try. Finally, despite weak cranking, the engine started. However, the engine was making a sound I would describe as a sputtering or muffled cluttering. I was then able to drive it home.
I replaced the battery only last year and the battery meter on the dashboard appeared normal once the car started. Also, there is no check engine light and no codes (I checked with an OBDII reader).
Can any of you offer ideas on what could have caused this? Could it be as simple as bad spark plugs/wires? I think I am overdue on replacing them... Could the unscrewed power steering cap have anything to do with it?
Thanks much,
-Allen
#4
it's definitely not the alternator or battery if you cranked it that many times even after the car died. check your spark plugs first. the wires usually don't go bad on these cars, that's why they're so expensive. also check the timing belt. don't try to start the car again yet.
#5
it's definitely not the alternator or battery if you cranked it that many times even after the car died. check your spark plugs first. the wires usually don't go bad on these cars, that's why they're so expensive. also check the timing belt. don't try to start the car again yet.
#6
i forgot to mention check your fuses for the fuel pump, the fuse may be oddly messed up causing the pump to work intermittently. if all fails, try starting the car again and check for the spark arc cragman mentioned and also change the coolant temp sensor
#7
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all of your responses. To answer some of your questions, the timing belt and tensioner were replaced three years (<30k miles) ago. The car has about 101,000 miles on it.
Are you all saying I shouldn't start it again because it might be the timing belt or could there be other problems that should make me avoid it?
I'm going to check the spark plugs next, but I've never done it on this car so I'm not sure I have all the right tools...
hiwords, I checked the fuel pump fuse and it was fine. I also checked the battery (with engine off) and it was just over 13V.
Unfortunately, I think it's going to be a trip to the mechanic for me
Thanks,
-Allen
Thanks for all of your responses. To answer some of your questions, the timing belt and tensioner were replaced three years (<30k miles) ago. The car has about 101,000 miles on it.
Are you all saying I shouldn't start it again because it might be the timing belt or could there be other problems that should make me avoid it?
I'm going to check the spark plugs next, but I've never done it on this car so I'm not sure I have all the right tools...
hiwords, I checked the fuel pump fuse and it was fine. I also checked the battery (with engine off) and it was just over 13V.
Unfortunately, I think it's going to be a trip to the mechanic for me
Thanks,
-Allen
#8
Strange that there are no codes. I would question the capability of the OBDII scanner that you used.
Maybe a hose or something came lose. Sounds like something happened during acceleration that is now causing the engine to run rough.
You need to get your hands on a vag-com.
Maybe a hose or something came lose. Sounds like something happened during acceleration that is now causing the engine to run rough.
You need to get your hands on a vag-com.
#9
i believe the plugs are just a 16mm deep well socket and a 12" extension but you'll need something to get it out of the tunnel. and ya we're telling to not start the car because the belt maybe broken. you should check the belt when you check the plugs. there's 2 large black covers in the front of the car on the engine, they're held on by that you can stick a flat head in and just pry. if the belt is broken you can easily see it. i'm beginning to think you belt may have slipped causing your timing to be off. maybe that's why there's no codes
#10
Hi hiwords,
I pulled off the engine covers and the serpentine belt in front looks fine (it was just replaced back in January). I didn't completly pop off the covers for the timing belt, but I popped the clamps and pried it open enough to see inside and it looked fine (taut and in the track) as far as i could see on both sides.
I'm going to try replacing the spark plugs today and see if that helps. If that doesn't work, I think I'll try the wires and coil pack next, but those are apparently hard to find. Even the local Audi dealer doesn't have them in stock. Is it true that the wires typically don't ever need to be replaced? (That's what the parts guy at the Audi dealer just told me when I called for pricing.)
Any suggestions on aftermarket versions of wires or coil packs? Advance Auto says they can order me a "BWD" coil pack for $200 whereas the dealer quoted $375...
Thanks,
-Allen
I pulled off the engine covers and the serpentine belt in front looks fine (it was just replaced back in January). I didn't completly pop off the covers for the timing belt, but I popped the clamps and pried it open enough to see inside and it looked fine (taut and in the track) as far as i could see on both sides.
I'm going to try replacing the spark plugs today and see if that helps. If that doesn't work, I think I'll try the wires and coil pack next, but those are apparently hard to find. Even the local Audi dealer doesn't have them in stock. Is it true that the wires typically don't ever need to be replaced? (That's what the parts guy at the Audi dealer just told me when I called for pricing.)
Any suggestions on aftermarket versions of wires or coil packs? Advance Auto says they can order me a "BWD" coil pack for $200 whereas the dealer quoted $375...
Thanks,
-Allen