Exhaust systems that are quiet
#1
09-28-2010, 08:31 PM
Exhaust systems that are quiet
Sooo here is my issue: I have a stock exhaust system with what I believe to be an undetectable leak. The leak has the effect of making an extremely loud whistling sound when I'm boosting > 3.2k RPM or so. I tool the car to Midas and they were not able to repair the issue after several attempts.
I think that going with a new turboback may be the best option that would gaurantee a lower-noise solution.
Which turbo back should I get if I want the following criteria:
1. Quietness - slightly louder than stock is acceptable, but I want something that I can pull into the office with and people not laugh.
2. Ease of install - I'd prefer to do the install myself in the comfort of my own garage.
3. Appearence - I would like to keep a near-stock appearance.
Things I dont really care about: cost, finish, quality of sound.
I think that going with a new turboback may be the best option that would gaurantee a lower-noise solution.
Which turbo back should I get if I want the following criteria:
1. Quietness - slightly louder than stock is acceptable, but I want something that I can pull into the office with and people not laugh.
2. Ease of install - I'd prefer to do the install myself in the comfort of my own garage.
3. Appearence - I would like to keep a near-stock appearance.
Things I dont really care about: cost, finish, quality of sound.
#2
09-28-2010, 08:49 PM
I've been rolling many of the same questions around in my head lately. I want something that is quiet around town and at idle, because my car is a DD and may or may not need to carry my boss/supervisor, clients, etc. at one point or another. However, I want to be able to hear zee German engineering when I stand on the skinny pedal; on the highway for example. I also want a black finish, as there was no other chrome on my car (save for the rings) and I don't intend to add any. After many hours of googling, I've come to the following conclusion:
Such an exhaust does not exist and you're going to have to buld it yourself.
My cats and flexpipes are still good, so i was going to just do a resonator and muffler, both black, both from Flowmaster, and dual black tips, no larger than 3". Can't seem to find that last bit anyplace....
Such an exhaust does not exist and you're going to have to buld it yourself.
My cats and flexpipes are still good, so i was going to just do a resonator and muffler, both black, both from Flowmaster, and dual black tips, no larger than 3". Can't seem to find that last bit anyplace....
#3
09-28-2010, 09:06 PM
Your flex section of the down pipe is likely leaking and it gets worse as the engine twists on the mounts under load.
ECS sells a cheapy stock replacement downpipe and clamp. You can install it in your garage with some basic hand tools and rust breaker.
As for CCA4, just paint the muffler and tips black with high-temp paint. I've had sucess in preventing rust and ugliness with cheap replacement mufflers on my Saturns by hosing them down with high-temp paint. Works with silver, Why not black?
ECS sells a cheapy stock replacement downpipe and clamp. You can install it in your garage with some basic hand tools and rust breaker.
As for CCA4, just paint the muffler and tips black with high-temp paint. I've had sucess in preventing rust and ugliness with cheap replacement mufflers on my Saturns by hosing them down with high-temp paint. Works with silver, Why not black?
#5
09-28-2010, 09:18 PM
I've been rolling many of the same questions around in my head lately. I want something that is quiet around town and at idle, because my car is a DD and may or may not need to carry my boss/supervisor, clients, etc. at one point or another. However, I want to be able to hear zee German engineering when I stand on the skinny pedal; on the highway for example. I also want a black finish, as there was no other chrome on my car (save for the rings) and I don't intend to add any. After many hours of googling, I've come to the following conclusion:
Such an exhaust does not exist and you're going to have to buld it yourself.
My cats and flexpipes are still good, so i was going to just do a resonator and muffler, both black, both from Flowmaster, and dual black tips, no larger than 3". Can't seem to find that last bit anyplace....
Such an exhaust does not exist and you're going to have to buld it yourself.
My cats and flexpipes are still good, so i was going to just do a resonator and muffler, both black, both from Flowmaster, and dual black tips, no larger than 3". Can't seem to find that last bit anyplace....
Do any companies at least make a bolt on kit that does away withth the crappy flexpipe?
Your flex section of the down pipe is likely leaking and it gets worse as the engine twists on the mounts under load.
ECS sells a cheapy stock replacement downpipe and clamp. You can install it in your garage with some basic hand tools and rust breaker.
As for CCA4, just paint the muffler and tips black with high-temp paint. I've had sucess in preventing rust and ugliness with cheap replacement mufflers on my Saturns by hosing them down with high-temp paint. Works with silver, Why not black?
ECS sells a cheapy stock replacement downpipe and clamp. You can install it in your garage with some basic hand tools and rust breaker.
As for CCA4, just paint the muffler and tips black with high-temp paint. I've had sucess in preventing rust and ugliness with cheap replacement mufflers on my Saturns by hosing them down with high-temp paint. Works with silver, Why not black?
I really think that it's their crappy flexpipe that is creating this annoying sound. And it's SUPER annoying.
#7
09-29-2010, 07:48 AM
No kits that I know of delete the flex pipes, but I would have to imagine removing them would make your exhaust prone to cracking at the welds.
Sounds AWESOME. Loud though isn't it?
Sounds AWESOME. Loud though isn't it?
#8
09-29-2010, 10:32 AM
[QUOTE=CCA4;1246020]No kits that I know of delete the flex pipes, but I would have to imagine removing them would make your exhaust prone to cracking at the welds.
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Oh, derfinitley. In fact, bad engine mounts are usually the cause of a cracked or broken flex section to begin with. But like I said, the down pipe bolts in between the center pipe and the cat. There is no reason to weld in a new flex section unless you have some strange or expensive custom down pipe.
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Oh, derfinitley. In fact, bad engine mounts are usually the cause of a cracked or broken flex section to begin with. But like I said, the down pipe bolts in between the center pipe and the cat. There is no reason to weld in a new flex section unless you have some strange or expensive custom down pipe.
#9
09-30-2010, 10:01 PM
[QUOTE=Tweaked;1246049]
Crap.. guess I'll have to check the motor mounts next time i'm under the car.
Also, if the stock design is meant to have a modular (bolt in) flexpipe, then there's some bastardized hybrid of an exhaust in my car. Regardless, the flex section has MIG welds all over it, and it looks pretty cheapo.
How much do you think the stealership would charge to replace the entire exhaust system?
No kits that I know of delete the flex pipes, but I would have to imagine removing them would make your exhaust prone to cracking at the welds.
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Oh, derfinitley. In fact, bad engine mounts are usually the cause of a cracked or broken flex section to begin with. But like I said, the down pipe bolts in between the center pipe and the cat. There is no reason to weld in a new flex section unless you have some strange or expensive custom down pipe.
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Oh, derfinitley. In fact, bad engine mounts are usually the cause of a cracked or broken flex section to begin with. But like I said, the down pipe bolts in between the center pipe and the cat. There is no reason to weld in a new flex section unless you have some strange or expensive custom down pipe.
Crap.. guess I'll have to check the motor mounts next time i'm under the car.
Also, if the stock design is meant to have a modular (bolt in) flexpipe, then there's some bastardized hybrid of an exhaust in my car. Regardless, the flex section has MIG welds all over it, and it looks pretty cheapo.
How much do you think the stealership would charge to replace the entire exhaust system?
#10
09-30-2010, 10:53 PM
To check for your leak stick it on jack stands and then have someone stuff some rags in the tail pipes. Then listen / feel for the leak. Guaranteed to work.