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Old 01-06-2012 | 12:59 PM
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Hey Guys,
Thought I would ask here before I empty my bank balance.

I have a 1999 A4 1.8T Quattro. as the topic title implies, with a dead clutch.

The clutch doesnt seem to have died like a normal one would as it still (sort of) works.
From a standstill with engine on and foot on clutch I cant put it in 1st, but if i turn off engine I can put it in 1st and start engine. I can feel the car wanting to creep forward even with my foot right down. so of course the clutch is knackered but allows me to get going in this way.

As far as I am aware its a dual mass clutch and flywheel although I'm not sure.
I really cant afford to buy the whole lot right now and am reluctant to as the car is going for part exchange as soon as its fixed.

my question is this, Do I REALLY need to change the dual mass flywheel at the same time, or can I just get away with the clutch part. what happens if I dont? will it hold out for a month or two?

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Can I buy a part worn solid clutch and flywheel like this.
audi a4 1998 fly wheel clutch & pressure plate AEB 1.8t | eBay

and fit it to teh car in place of whats already there?

I know this all sounds a bit gypo but I literally cant afford the money it costs for a new complete dual mass setup.

cheers guys,
Brad
 
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Old 01-06-2012 | 01:23 PM
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now im doubting if it is actually dual mass after reading some of teh threads here. is there any way i can check without splitting the engine and box?
 
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Old 01-06-2012 | 01:49 PM
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I am going to need to replace my clutch soon too, so i am weighing my options now.

I would buy a kit. It's sort of one of those jobs where if you go through all the trouble of dropping the tranny you might as well replace other parts IE the fly and throwout bearing.

The labor is going to be huge. A place by me charges a flat rate of 600 bucks for a clutch kit. So its worth it to buy the kit man. I wouldnt cut corners here.
 
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Old 01-06-2012 | 02:49 PM
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having a 98 that i just changed the clutch in, sounds like yours is kaput.

I just got a cheap one, brand i dont remember, came with a new flywheel and clutch. For the record, it did not come with the damn throwout bearing.

Just buy all new parts. I pulled the motor when i did my clutch and did the timing belt while i was in there. Total job cost like 200$. You get what you pay for, just make sure you double check everything.

and addressing your issue with going into gear, possible syncro is out of line or your shift linkage is falling apart.
 
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Old 01-09-2012 | 09:25 AM
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can anyone confirm teh type of clutch in my car? is there a way i can find out from vin number or something?
as its seems not all cars are dual mass?
thanks
 
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Old 01-09-2012 | 10:38 AM
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All B5 A4/S4 clutches are interchangeable, except for the 228mm/240mm variations. Obviously you can't use a 228mm flywheel with a 240mm pressure plate. Your stock flywheel is a steel dual mass set up, but they're wicked expensive to replace. If yours is in decent shape and you can find a reputable shop that will do it they can be resurfaced, but be careful.

Most people who upgrade go with a single mass steel LWFW. It's cheaper and better at transferring power, but slightly noisier. High HP applications go with a single mass aluminum LWFW because they're obviously lighter. The chatter from an aluminum flywheel will be worse, though.

Are you looking for a 100% stock replacement?
 
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Old 01-09-2012 | 12:55 PM
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Sounds like what happened to you happened to me. My pressure plate exploded. I ended up getting the ra4 kit from ecs tuning. Six hundred for the kit including a new lwfw. Other than that I got spare clutch parts sitting around including a flywheel that's in decent shape I can have surfaced if you want it
 
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Old 01-09-2012 | 11:08 PM
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I replaced my clutch about 2 years ago, and the stack car has a dual-mass flywheel.

One thing you need to make sure of is that the clutch you get is unsprung. I don't remember the specifics, but if you don't replace the flywheel, the stock one is thicker, and as a result, the clutch needs to be 'unsprung' and if you do replace the flywheel, you need to get a sprung clutch to close the gap that is created. (All from memory, don't quote me on this)

I would get in contact with Mike-2ptzero. He is a good guy and got me set up with my new clutch.

Edit: Found Mikes username
 

Last edited by Scaryfatkid; 01-09-2012 at 11:12 PM. Reason: Found Mike's Username
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