catalytic converter?
#11
06-08-2009, 10:56 AM
You want to get on this GB ($270) which ends on June 15th. Its showing great power gains over stock and with no cells being activated.
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282962
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282962
#14
11-20-2009, 06:38 PM
There is a bulletin on Cat problem
Campaign - Update ECM for False Cat Converter DTC's
Number:
260701
Date:
05/11/2007
26 07 01
May 11, 2007
2010066/3
Supersedes Technical Service Bulletin Group 26 number 05-03 dated July 20, 2005 due to addition of Saga warranty data, change in VIN range, and reformatting
RVU - Update Programming For Catalytic Converter System (IC)
Models
Condition
This RVU has been proactively released to prevent the following condition from occurring in the vehicle:
Update Programming required to eliminate possible DTCs caused by the On Board Diagnosis OBD for the Catalytic Converter system, which is too sensitive and sets DTC codes without a defect in the catalyst system.
Vehicle must meet all of the following criteria:
1. Procedure is valid only for vehicles that show the IC code in the ElsaWeb Campaign/Action Information screen on the day of repair.
2. Vehicle must be within the Federal Emissions Warranty.
3. Procedure must be performed within the allotted time frame stated in this Technical Service Bulletin.
4. Procedure must be performed on applicable vehicles in Dealer inventory prior to sale.
Technical Background
Update Programming required to eliminate possible DTCs caused by the On Board Diagnosis OBD for the Catalytic Converter system which is too sensitive and sets fault codes without a defect in the catalyst system.
Production Solution
Improved production.
Service
Note:
Any Update Programming procedure (flash) may overwrite any tuned ECM or TCM programming. A tuned ECM or TCM is described as any ECM or TCM altered so as to perform outside the normal parameters and specifications approved by Audi of America, Inc.
Current Tuned ECM or TCM Requirements
If you encounter a vehicle with a tuned ECM or TCM, your dealership must do the following before performing any procedure that updates ECM or TCM programming:
^ Notify the owner that their ECM or TCM was found to have been tuned.
^ Notify the owner that any damage caused by the tuning of the ECM or TCM (including any adverse emissions consequences) will not be covered by Audi of America, Inc. warranties.
^ Obtain the owner's written consent (Refer to attached Control Module Tuning form shown) for any requested repair - under warranty or outside warranty - that requires flashing that will automatically overwrite the tuned program.
Tool requirements
^ VAS 5051 or 5052 Diagnostic tool (with Basis CD V.07.01 and the Brand CD V.07.38 or higher) with old diagnosis logs erased prior to start.
^ VAS 6017 A or B adapter.
^ Update - Programming (flashing) CD Part No: 8D0 906 961 A, B, C, D, E.
^ Please scrap the Update - Programming CD, Part No: 4F0 906 961 F, which was sent out previously.
Tip:
Additional copies of the "Update - Programming" CDs may be ordered from the Audi Technical Literature Ordering Center
Vehicle requirements
Battery must have minimum no-load charge of 12.5V. Failure to maintain voltage during update process can lead to ECM failure. (You must use an approved battery charger to maintain battery voltage.)
Tip:
Make sure the battery contacts are clean and not corroded in order to supply the sufficient voltage of 12.5V to the system. Clean battery contacts if necessary.
^ VAS 5051: connected to vehicle and to 110V AC Power supply at all times during procedure.
^ VAS 5052: connected to vehicle with battery voltage requirements met.
^ Any appliances with high electromagnetic radiation (i.e. mobile phones) switched OFF.
^ Vehicle electrical consumers are OFF (i.e. radio, lights, A/C, etc.).
Tip:
Non-observance of the following points may lead to ECM failure!
^ VAS 5051 or 5052 must always be connected to the approved power supply at the approved voltages. Under no circumstances should the power supply be interrupted or the diagnostic connector unplugged during the flash procedure.
^ Any appliances with high electromagnetic radiation (i.e. mobile phones) must be switched OFF.
Note:
Do not use the VAS 6017A or B adapter when performing update programming (flashing). Control module can be damaged. Adapter is for checking control modules only.
Update - Programming (flashing) procedure, checking software level
1. Switch ignition ON.
2. Switch VAS 5051 or VAS 5052 diagnostic tool ON.
3. Select Vehicle Self Diagnosis mode.
4. Select Vehicle system 01-Engine electronics.
5. Select forward arrow.
6. Check ECM Part No. and Software level at arrow.
7. Print out the displayed screen.
8. Attach a copy of print to vehicle Repair Order.
9. Verify the ECM Part No. from the printout, and insert the correct Update CD (see table).
Tip: Check the light on the CD drive. It must have stopped flashing before going to the "Select Vehicle System" screen again or the CD ROM will not be recognized.
10. Go back to initial vehicle screen.
11. Select Vehicle Self Diagnose mode.
12. Select Vehicle system 01-Engine electronics.
13. Select forward > arrow.
14. Check software level at arrow.
15. If ECM software level (arrow) is 0050 or higher, Update - Programming is not required.
16. Select Diagnosis function 06- End Output.
17. Close out the Required Vehicle Update TSB (IC) in the warranty system using the appropriate repair code.
18. If ECM software level (arrow) is lower than 0050, proceed to Prior to performing procedure to Update - Programming (flash) the ECM below. If Update - Programming does not appear, check whether the correct Update CD is inserted. (Verify with ECM Part No. from printout.)
Prior to performing procedure to Update - Programming (flash) the ECM:
1. Access and record radio code.
2. Pull radio out from instrument panel enough to access electrical connectors.
3. Disconnect all electrical connectors (arrows) from multi-pin connections.
4. With VAS 5051/5052 connected to the DLC using the VAS 6017A or B adapter, select Vehicle Self Diagnosis mode.
5. Select Diagnosis function 00 - Collection services.
6. Select Check DTC memory - complete system, which will interrogate all fault memories.
7. When DTC interrogation is complete, Function Complete will be displayed.
Tip: When performing the reflash procedure, all DTCs for all systems are erased. DTCs linked to Guided Fault Finding function tests will be lost. Therefore, always address stored DTCs for Customer concerns unrelated to the reflash procedure first.
8. Select back arrow < on navigation bar to return to vehicle systems screen.
9. Select Diagnosis function 06 - End output.
10. Switch ignition off.
11. Disconnect the VAS 5051 or VAS 5052 diagnostic tool. (Remove 6017 A or B adapter.)
12. Connect the VAS 5051 or VAS 5052 to the vehicle (without 6017 A or B adapter).
13. Switch ignition on.
14. Select Vehicle Self Diagnosis mode.
15. Select vehicle system 01-Engine electronics.
Update - Programming (flashing), performing
1. Select Update - Programming option at bottom of screen (arrow).
After selecting Update - Programming function, new software level 0050 is indicated along with approximate timing for update.
2. By selecting the > button, the programming procedure begins.
NOTE:
Once Update - Programming function has been started, switching the ignition off or disconnecting the diagnostic connector may damage the ECM.
A data transfer screen appears. The previous data in the ECM is erased, and the new data is being transferred to the module from the flash CD.
Tip: Please do not carry out any other work on the vehicle during Update - Programming, or the process could be interrupted.
3. If, during the Update - Programming, a fault message is displayed:
a. Confirm that VAS 5051 or VAS 5052 diagnostic tool power supply is adequate and that all appliances with high electromagnetic radiation (i.e. mobile phones) are switched off.
b. The Update - Programming (flashing) process must then be started from the beginning.
4. Restart the reflash using the Repeat button (arrow). Do not use the Cancel button.
Tip: Do not exchange the Update - CD when the Update - Programming procedure fails after it has started.
5. Once Update - Programming (flashing) is complete, the control module must be re-initialized.
6. The tester requests you to switch the ignition off. Switch ignition off.
7. Disconnect VAS 5051 or VAS 5052.
8. Connect all electrical connectors to multi-pin connections.
Reinstall the radio.
Connect VAS 6017A or B adapter to the VAS 5051 or VAS 5052.
Connect it to the vehicle.
9. The tester requests you to switch the ignition on. Wait 20 seconds and switch the ignition on.
10. Select the Repeat button to continue the Update - Programming (flashing) process.
11. Print the displayed screen.
12. Attach a copy of the printout to the vehicle Repair Order.
13. Select forward arrow > on navigation bar. The ECM has been re-initialized; however, fault memories must now be erased.
Fault memories, erasing after Update - Programming (flashing)
1. To erase all fault memories, select forward arrow > on navigation bar.
2. Once fault memories have been erased.
^ The old software level may appear in the upper right-hand corner of the screen.
^ Function ended! appears at bottom of screen.
3. Finish update of the ECM. Select backward arrow < on navigation bar. Updated software level 0050 will appear.
Tip: With this update, whenever the Update Programming CD ROM is in the Diagnostic tool, the Update Programming selection will show on this screen although the update has been completed.
4. Flash CD can now be removed from VAS 5051 or VAS 5052 Diagnostic tool.
5. Print the ECM screen to verify ECM update software level.
6. Attach printout to vehicle Repair Order.
7. Select Go to, then select Exit.
Tip: It is not generally necessary to encode the ECM following the
flashing procedure. However, you must set the readiness code.
8. Use VAS 5051 or VAS 5052 to set readiness code.
Tip: If the flashing procedure was interrupted and an error message appeared, or DTC 18089, P1681 is present in the ECM, the engine may not start. The flashing procedure will need to be performed again. Please call the Audi Technical Assistance Center for a contact number. The collection services step for DTC checking and clearing does not need to be repeated. Select Update - Programming on the Select Diagnosis Screen.
9. The system needs a minimum of 2-3 cold starts to fully adapt to the fuel quality and to the car.
Warranty
All parts and service references provided in this RVU are subject to change and/or removal. Always check with your Parts Department and service manuals for the latest information.
Number:
260701
Date:
05/11/2007
26 07 01
May 11, 2007
2010066/3
Supersedes Technical Service Bulletin Group 26 number 05-03 dated July 20, 2005 due to addition of Saga warranty data, change in VIN range, and reformatting
RVU - Update Programming For Catalytic Converter System (IC)
Models
Condition
This RVU has been proactively released to prevent the following condition from occurring in the vehicle:
Update Programming required to eliminate possible DTCs caused by the On Board Diagnosis OBD for the Catalytic Converter system, which is too sensitive and sets DTC codes without a defect in the catalyst system.
Vehicle must meet all of the following criteria:
1. Procedure is valid only for vehicles that show the IC code in the ElsaWeb Campaign/Action Information screen on the day of repair.
2. Vehicle must be within the Federal Emissions Warranty.
3. Procedure must be performed within the allotted time frame stated in this Technical Service Bulletin.
4. Procedure must be performed on applicable vehicles in Dealer inventory prior to sale.
Technical Background
Update Programming required to eliminate possible DTCs caused by the On Board Diagnosis OBD for the Catalytic Converter system which is too sensitive and sets fault codes without a defect in the catalyst system.
Production Solution
Improved production.
Service
Note:
Any Update Programming procedure (flash) may overwrite any tuned ECM or TCM programming. A tuned ECM or TCM is described as any ECM or TCM altered so as to perform outside the normal parameters and specifications approved by Audi of America, Inc.
Current Tuned ECM or TCM Requirements
If you encounter a vehicle with a tuned ECM or TCM, your dealership must do the following before performing any procedure that updates ECM or TCM programming:
^ Notify the owner that their ECM or TCM was found to have been tuned.
^ Notify the owner that any damage caused by the tuning of the ECM or TCM (including any adverse emissions consequences) will not be covered by Audi of America, Inc. warranties.
^ Obtain the owner's written consent (Refer to attached Control Module Tuning form shown) for any requested repair - under warranty or outside warranty - that requires flashing that will automatically overwrite the tuned program.
Tool requirements
^ VAS 5051 or 5052 Diagnostic tool (with Basis CD V.07.01 and the Brand CD V.07.38 or higher) with old diagnosis logs erased prior to start.
^ VAS 6017 A or B adapter.
^ Update - Programming (flashing) CD Part No: 8D0 906 961 A, B, C, D, E.
^ Please scrap the Update - Programming CD, Part No: 4F0 906 961 F, which was sent out previously.
Tip:
Additional copies of the "Update - Programming" CDs may be ordered from the Audi Technical Literature Ordering Center
Vehicle requirements
Battery must have minimum no-load charge of 12.5V. Failure to maintain voltage during update process can lead to ECM failure. (You must use an approved battery charger to maintain battery voltage.)
Tip:
Make sure the battery contacts are clean and not corroded in order to supply the sufficient voltage of 12.5V to the system. Clean battery contacts if necessary.
^ VAS 5051: connected to vehicle and to 110V AC Power supply at all times during procedure.
^ VAS 5052: connected to vehicle with battery voltage requirements met.
^ Any appliances with high electromagnetic radiation (i.e. mobile phones) switched OFF.
^ Vehicle electrical consumers are OFF (i.e. radio, lights, A/C, etc.).
Tip:
Non-observance of the following points may lead to ECM failure!
^ VAS 5051 or 5052 must always be connected to the approved power supply at the approved voltages. Under no circumstances should the power supply be interrupted or the diagnostic connector unplugged during the flash procedure.
^ Any appliances with high electromagnetic radiation (i.e. mobile phones) must be switched OFF.
Note:
Do not use the VAS 6017A or B adapter when performing update programming (flashing). Control module can be damaged. Adapter is for checking control modules only.
Update - Programming (flashing) procedure, checking software level
1. Switch ignition ON.
2. Switch VAS 5051 or VAS 5052 diagnostic tool ON.
3. Select Vehicle Self Diagnosis mode.
4. Select Vehicle system 01-Engine electronics.
5. Select forward arrow.
6. Check ECM Part No. and Software level at arrow.
7. Print out the displayed screen.
8. Attach a copy of print to vehicle Repair Order.
9. Verify the ECM Part No. from the printout, and insert the correct Update CD (see table).
Tip: Check the light on the CD drive. It must have stopped flashing before going to the "Select Vehicle System" screen again or the CD ROM will not be recognized.
10. Go back to initial vehicle screen.
11. Select Vehicle Self Diagnose mode.
12. Select Vehicle system 01-Engine electronics.
13. Select forward > arrow.
14. Check software level at arrow.
15. If ECM software level (arrow) is 0050 or higher, Update - Programming is not required.
16. Select Diagnosis function 06- End Output.
17. Close out the Required Vehicle Update TSB (IC) in the warranty system using the appropriate repair code.
18. If ECM software level (arrow) is lower than 0050, proceed to Prior to performing procedure to Update - Programming (flash) the ECM below. If Update - Programming does not appear, check whether the correct Update CD is inserted. (Verify with ECM Part No. from printout.)
Prior to performing procedure to Update - Programming (flash) the ECM:
1. Access and record radio code.
2. Pull radio out from instrument panel enough to access electrical connectors.
3. Disconnect all electrical connectors (arrows) from multi-pin connections.
4. With VAS 5051/5052 connected to the DLC using the VAS 6017A or B adapter, select Vehicle Self Diagnosis mode.
5. Select Diagnosis function 00 - Collection services.
6. Select Check DTC memory - complete system, which will interrogate all fault memories.
7. When DTC interrogation is complete, Function Complete will be displayed.
Tip: When performing the reflash procedure, all DTCs for all systems are erased. DTCs linked to Guided Fault Finding function tests will be lost. Therefore, always address stored DTCs for Customer concerns unrelated to the reflash procedure first.
8. Select back arrow < on navigation bar to return to vehicle systems screen.
9. Select Diagnosis function 06 - End output.
10. Switch ignition off.
11. Disconnect the VAS 5051 or VAS 5052 diagnostic tool. (Remove 6017 A or B adapter.)
12. Connect the VAS 5051 or VAS 5052 to the vehicle (without 6017 A or B adapter).
13. Switch ignition on.
14. Select Vehicle Self Diagnosis mode.
15. Select vehicle system 01-Engine electronics.
Update - Programming (flashing), performing
1. Select Update - Programming option at bottom of screen (arrow).
After selecting Update - Programming function, new software level 0050 is indicated along with approximate timing for update.
2. By selecting the > button, the programming procedure begins.
NOTE:
Once Update - Programming function has been started, switching the ignition off or disconnecting the diagnostic connector may damage the ECM.
A data transfer screen appears. The previous data in the ECM is erased, and the new data is being transferred to the module from the flash CD.
Tip: Please do not carry out any other work on the vehicle during Update - Programming, or the process could be interrupted.
3. If, during the Update - Programming, a fault message is displayed:
a. Confirm that VAS 5051 or VAS 5052 diagnostic tool power supply is adequate and that all appliances with high electromagnetic radiation (i.e. mobile phones) are switched off.
b. The Update - Programming (flashing) process must then be started from the beginning.
4. Restart the reflash using the Repeat button (arrow). Do not use the Cancel button.
Tip: Do not exchange the Update - CD when the Update - Programming procedure fails after it has started.
5. Once Update - Programming (flashing) is complete, the control module must be re-initialized.
6. The tester requests you to switch the ignition off. Switch ignition off.
7. Disconnect VAS 5051 or VAS 5052.
8. Connect all electrical connectors to multi-pin connections.
Reinstall the radio.
Connect VAS 6017A or B adapter to the VAS 5051 or VAS 5052.
Connect it to the vehicle.
9. The tester requests you to switch the ignition on. Wait 20 seconds and switch the ignition on.
10. Select the Repeat button to continue the Update - Programming (flashing) process.
11. Print the displayed screen.
12. Attach a copy of the printout to the vehicle Repair Order.
13. Select forward arrow > on navigation bar. The ECM has been re-initialized; however, fault memories must now be erased.
Fault memories, erasing after Update - Programming (flashing)
1. To erase all fault memories, select forward arrow > on navigation bar.
2. Once fault memories have been erased.
^ The old software level may appear in the upper right-hand corner of the screen.
^ Function ended! appears at bottom of screen.
3. Finish update of the ECM. Select backward arrow < on navigation bar. Updated software level 0050 will appear.
Tip: With this update, whenever the Update Programming CD ROM is in the Diagnostic tool, the Update Programming selection will show on this screen although the update has been completed.
4. Flash CD can now be removed from VAS 5051 or VAS 5052 Diagnostic tool.
5. Print the ECM screen to verify ECM update software level.
6. Attach printout to vehicle Repair Order.
7. Select Go to, then select Exit.
Tip: It is not generally necessary to encode the ECM following the
flashing procedure. However, you must set the readiness code.
8. Use VAS 5051 or VAS 5052 to set readiness code.
Tip: If the flashing procedure was interrupted and an error message appeared, or DTC 18089, P1681 is present in the ECM, the engine may not start. The flashing procedure will need to be performed again. Please call the Audi Technical Assistance Center for a contact number. The collection services step for DTC checking and clearing does not need to be repeated. Select Update - Programming on the Select Diagnosis Screen.
9. The system needs a minimum of 2-3 cold starts to fully adapt to the fuel quality and to the car.
Warranty
All parts and service references provided in this RVU are subject to change and/or removal. Always check with your Parts Department and service manuals for the latest information.
#15
07-22-2010, 11:56 AM
Just to throw this in there... I have a 2003 Audi A4 1.8T and my check engine light is on, I took it to my personal mechanic, he has cleared the codes and the same codes came back about the cat converter, just like what seems to be your problem. He said to fill up with 91(always do) and put a thing of fuel injector cleaner in it, so I did that and everytime I did that a few days later the engine light would turn off for about 4-5 days, then come back on. So i put fuel injector cleaner in it quite a few times, and I finally just realized it wasn't going to permanently stay off and I needed a new cat, I plan to just take mine out and straight pipe it, but I just wanted to let you know just because the engine light turned off it's bound to turn back on. By the way, my car has 134k miles on it, I heard around these miles is usually when the cat(s) go out for these cars.
#16
09-25-2010, 09:49 AM
re : magnaflow catalytic converter
My brother owned a walker system, do you think the dynomax cat could bolt on.
My brother owned a walker system, do you think the dynomax cat could bolt on.
#17
10-20-2010, 04:43 PM
Since 120k mi on my 2002 A6 Avant Qtr 3.0 is out of standard Cat Converter warranty 80k mi, I told Audi dealer I will pay for flashing of ECM update. Still the dealer won't do it, just saying your car does not have a flashing program. What else can I do?
#18
01-10-2011, 07:10 PM
catalytic converter
My mechanic wouldn't give me an estimate because he wasn't going to do the job, I just asked him if he had an idea of how much I was going to be spending, so I'm not too worry about it.
I think that the car is bad because of the smell, the lost potency and it is also using more gas... how could I make sure? He deleted the codes from the computer and they came up again... plus the car now has about 130k miles on it, so it's probable that it needs a new catalytic converter, right?
Where can I get a generic cat? Is it better to get the OEM?
I think that the car is bad because of the smell, the lost potency and it is also using more gas... how could I make sure? He deleted the codes from the computer and they came up again... plus the car now has about 130k miles on it, so it's probable that it needs a new catalytic converter, right?
Where can I get a generic cat? Is it better to get the OEM?
#19
01-10-2011, 07:32 PM
catalytic converter
Hello people. My ride is Audi a4 2001 2.8 v6.
My engine light was on and i check on the shop that indicate my catalytic converter need to replace. I thought this is the time to change performance converter and i found some cool stull in 034motorsport.com. Any advice Audi lover for me.
Thanks
Harry
My engine light was on and i check on the shop that indicate my catalytic converter need to replace. I thought this is the time to change performance converter and i found some cool stull in 034motorsport.com. Any advice Audi lover for me.
Thanks
Harry
