B5 Upgrades/reliability
#1
B5 Upgrades/reliability
Ok I just got a 1999 5spd A4 1.8t quattro for cheap due to a quick fix. It has 110k on it. I'm not to familiar with Audis. I have been researching all day but cant seem to find the BEST answers. I did search please dont insult me.
Current mods = FMIC and Cat back. Rest stock as far as I know.
Im wondering the most reliable way to make around 200-220 whp. Im not asking the cheapest or easiest way Id prefer a way that keeps it a reliable daily driver. Can I reliably make it to that goal with stock turbo? That would be best but am willing to upgrade if I have to. Also I want this power on 93 octane not gonna be buying race fuel for a daily driver.
Thanks, Sheasta
Current mods = FMIC and Cat back. Rest stock as far as I know.
Im wondering the most reliable way to make around 200-220 whp. Im not asking the cheapest or easiest way Id prefer a way that keeps it a reliable daily driver. Can I reliably make it to that goal with stock turbo? That would be best but am willing to upgrade if I have to. Also I want this power on 93 octane not gonna be buying race fuel for a daily driver.
Thanks, Sheasta
#2
Reliable mods reply
I accquired my car in a similar Manor roughly same mileage and the mods I went with and would recommend to you are:
Forge 007 dv or Bailey dv
Test pipe for sure
Chip either giac or Apr make power you want
Intake or k&N drop In filter
Replace boost hoses with Apr silicon hoses
K04 or garret turbos are a nice touch
And lastly tt injectors 330cc
That's a nice conservative fun beast daily driver!
Forge 007 dv or Bailey dv
Test pipe for sure
Chip either giac or Apr make power you want
Intake or k&N drop In filter
Replace boost hoses with Apr silicon hoses
K04 or garret turbos are a nice touch
And lastly tt injectors 330cc
That's a nice conservative fun beast daily driver!
#4
How will I pass inspection with a test pipe? Will it make a big difference between a test pipe and high flow cat setup?
Edit: maybe wrap a gutted cat around test pipe =)? I've never done a cat delete before how do you prevent 02 sensor codes from lighting up the dash?
I live in Massachusetts so I believe now a days they only scan for codes and do a visual inspection of emissions parts to make sure they are indeed still there. So I could do a test pipe with gutted cat around it so it looks like I have cat as long as I figure out how to trick rear o2 sensor.
Thanks, Sheasta
Edit: maybe wrap a gutted cat around test pipe =)? I've never done a cat delete before how do you prevent 02 sensor codes from lighting up the dash?
I live in Massachusetts so I believe now a days they only scan for codes and do a visual inspection of emissions parts to make sure they are indeed still there. So I could do a test pipe with gutted cat around it so it looks like I have cat as long as I figure out how to trick rear o2 sensor.
Thanks, Sheasta
Last edited by Sheasta; 04-09-2012 at 08:15 PM.
#6
Inspection once per year in MA. 2 Years would be great.
Edit: I'll only need the bigger injectors if I upgrade the turbo correct? If I keep the K03 I can keep stock injectors? Also If I get the GIAC or APR chip can I keep the same chip if I eventually upgrade to K04 or does the swap require another chip?
Thanks, Sheasta
Edit: I'll only need the bigger injectors if I upgrade the turbo correct? If I keep the K03 I can keep stock injectors? Also If I get the GIAC or APR chip can I keep the same chip if I eventually upgrade to K04 or does the swap require another chip?
Thanks, Sheasta
Last edited by Sheasta; 04-09-2012 at 11:35 PM.
#7
Just keep the cat. There is no reason to run a catless exhaust if you are only trying to make 200 or so hp. To make 200 to the wheels should be fairly easy with a 2.5" exhaust (with catalytic converter), boost controller (set boost to approximately 9-11 psi), boost gauge to monitor boost level, 330-400cc injectors, some way to tune injectors, FMIC to keep intake temps lower, and a quality splitter valve will be a nice touch. And to answer your question if you increase the boost you will need more fuel to compensate whether you use a k03 or k04 or whatever turbo. You can probably up the boost a few psi with the stock injectors but they will probably be at or over 100% injector cycle so you might as well get bigger ones. If you start increasing boost alot (not recommended) you will also need to get a higher volume fuel pump and adjustable fuel pressure regulator. But to make 200whp, the items I mentioned above should get you there. And as devil said, new owner sticky is a good place to start.
#8
200-220 awhp you say? get this FrankenTurbo | F4 Hybrid Turbocharger for Longitudinal 1.8T, with some of this Motoza. LLC and these Audi B5 A4 Quattro 1.8T > Engine > Fuel > Injectors > ES#1866540 440cc Green Giant Fuel Injector - Set Of Four - 0280155968. thats all you really need and should be under $2000
#9
Just keep the cat. There is no reason to run a catless exhaust if you are only trying to make 200 or so hp. To make 200 to the wheels should be fairly easy with a 2.5" exhaust (with catalytic converter), boost controller (set boost to approximately 9-11 psi), boost gauge to monitor boost level, 330-400cc injectors, some way to tune injectors, FMIC to keep intake temps lower, and a quality splitter valve will be a nice touch. And to answer your question if you increase the boost you will need more fuel to compensate whether you use a k03 or k04 or whatever turbo. You can probably up the boost a few psi with the stock injectors but they will probably be at or over 100% injector cycle so you might as well get bigger ones. If you start increasing boost alot (not recommended) you will also need to get a higher volume fuel pump and adjustable fuel pressure regulator. But to make 200whp, the items I mentioned above should get you there. And as devil said, new owner sticky is a good place to start.
In most cases, all off-the-shelf K03 tunes for AEB engines will use stock injectors and FPR, as they can handle it. No need to upgrade them if staying with the K03 (you'd need a tune which uses upgraded injectors anyways).
If you want 200-220whp reliably, look into a K04 setup. If you want to take it to the next step, then take redline380's FrankenTurbo suggestion (this is what I run). This should net ~240whp when set up properly with exhaust, FMIC, tune, etc.
#10
Don't think that will do it... GIAC and APR often claim 200hp (at the crank) when you chip your car while running K03 and stock fueling. They raise the boost to ~18psi to reach that 200chp... which is maybe 170-175whp. So 9-10psi won't even get close.
In most cases, all off-the-shelf K03 tunes for AEB engines will use stock injectors and FPR, as they can handle it. No need to upgrade them if staying with the K03 (you'd need a tune which uses upgraded injectors anyways).
If you want 200-220whp reliably, look into a K04 setup. If you want to take it to the next step, then take redline380's FrankenTurbo suggestion (this is what I run). This should net ~240whp when set up properly with exhaust, FMIC, tune, etc.
In most cases, all off-the-shelf K03 tunes for AEB engines will use stock injectors and FPR, as they can handle it. No need to upgrade them if staying with the K03 (you'd need a tune which uses upgraded injectors anyways).
If you want 200-220whp reliably, look into a K04 setup. If you want to take it to the next step, then take redline380's FrankenTurbo suggestion (this is what I run). This should net ~240whp when set up properly with exhaust, FMIC, tune, etc.