Q7 Dead Battery - 11 days old
#12
03-31-2009 | 11:10 AM
1st Gear
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 444
From: Rutland, Vermont, USA
Similar problem here. I own an earlier model 2007 Q7 (purchased new nov. 2006). We had left the Q7 in the dealer for minor service with the valet key. When we picked it up, my wife drove it to work and forgot about the valet key since we always use the smart key fob. So, she actually left the valet key in the ignition all day long while she went to work in her shop. The engine was off and the ignition switch was in the off position. Since she's used to the radio and all electronics, lights, etc. shutting off on a delay, especially with the smart key, she didn't think anything of it when she left the car for the day. She locked the car and walked away. Anyway, with the valet key still in the ignition, the radio remained on all day until the battery was drained. We had to jump start it in the evening.
I took it into the dealer and had them look at it. I was under the assumption that the Q7 has a smart computer which is supposed to shutdown all non-essential equipment if there's a chance that the battery is being drawn down too far. They said that it was normal and also showed me the same on a 2008 Q7. I had a copy of a TSB that mentioned something to the fact that it wasn't normal and was fixed by a software upgrade. They still denied anything was wrong and also stated that my software versions were all up-to-date and didn'tneed an upgrade.
He even tried explaining that Audi designed it that way so you could sit in your car and listen to the radio without turning the engine on. Their explanation didn't really make any sense at all. I may not know much about the electronics, but it seems odd that any manufacturer would leave stuff "on" with the ignition switch in the off position, regardless if the key was in the ignition or not. Usually, ignition switches have an "off", "on", and "accessory on" position. If I wanted to sit in the car and listen to the radio without the engine on, then I'd turn it to the "accessory on" position -- not the "off" position.
I took it into the dealer and had them look at it. I was under the assumption that the Q7 has a smart computer which is supposed to shutdown all non-essential equipment if there's a chance that the battery is being drawn down too far. They said that it was normal and also showed me the same on a 2008 Q7. I had a copy of a TSB that mentioned something to the fact that it wasn't normal and was fixed by a software upgrade. They still denied anything was wrong and also stated that my software versions were all up-to-date and didn'tneed an upgrade.
He even tried explaining that Audi designed it that way so you could sit in your car and listen to the radio without turning the engine on. Their explanation didn't really make any sense at all. I may not know much about the electronics, but it seems odd that any manufacturer would leave stuff "on" with the ignition switch in the off position, regardless if the key was in the ignition or not. Usually, ignition switches have an "off", "on", and "accessory on" position. If I wanted to sit in the car and listen to the radio without the engine on, then I'd turn it to the "accessory on" position -- not the "off" position.
Last edited by Sublime865; 03-31-2009 at 11:10 AM. Reason: spelling...
#14
05-14-2013 | 02:33 PM
1st Gear
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 48
Chassis Type: 4L0
Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 18 19 34 37 42 46 47 4F 52
55 56 61 62 67 6D 6F 72 76 77
VIN: WAUZZZ4L07D034266 Mileage: 140040km/87016miles
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
6F-Centr. Conv. II -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4L0 910 401 M HW: 4L0 907 401
Component: 3.0L V6TDI G000AG 0030
Revision: --H05--- Serial number:
Coding: 0011775
Shop #: WSC 06144 000 1048576
VCID: 2C5C11CB8F179978AD4
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09D-927-750.lbl
Part No SW: 09D 927 750 FK HW: 09D 927 750 FK
Component: AL 750 6A 0940
Revision: 00H52000 Serial number:
Coding: 0000504
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 7CFCE18B3FF7C9F87D4
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4L0-910-517.clb
Part No SW: 4L0 910 517 A HW: 4L0 614 517 A
Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25E1 0130
Revision: 00H21001
Coding: 0038033
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 2854EDDB9BEFB55849C
No fault code found.
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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4F0-910-852.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 HW: 4F0 905 852 B
Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H31 0220
Revision: 31050601 Serial number: 10601000493662
Coding: 0000147
Shop #: WSC 00202 210 80978
VCID: E3CE3AF722499600DCE
Part No: 4F0 910 131 E
Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H45 0080
Part No: 4F0 910 220 D
Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG H01 0040
No fault code found.
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Address 07: Control Head Labels: 4L0-910-7xx-07-H.lbl
Part No SW: 4L1 910 732 G HW: 4E0 035 729
Component: Interfacebox H43 5570
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 386GZ067515771
Coding: 0002002
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 2E581BC3B90BEB68830
Part No: 4L0 910 609
Component: E0380 BedienteilH01 0060
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Part No SW: 4L0 910 043 HW: 4L0 820 043 F
Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH05 0060
Revision: 00---012 Serial number: 00000000153176
Coding: 0298006
Shop #: WSC 00202 210 50776
VCID: E1C230FF38558410CE2
1 Fault Found:
00565 - Rear A/C Control Head (Climatronic) (E265)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 29
Mileage: 140045 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.13
Time: 20:21:07
Freeze Frame:
ON
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 K HW: 4F0 907 279
Component: ILM Fahrer H17 0240
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 4F0907279
Coding: 0013121
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 316200BFA835F4909E2
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4L2 910 113 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer AU716 H12 0100
Coding: 00022806
Shop #: WSC 31414
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557 A Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH13 0090
Coding: 00150059
Shop #: WSC 31414
1 Fault Found:
02745 - Bulb for Daytime Running Light; Left
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 29
Mileage: 140008 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.13
Time: 12:30:00
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Address 0E: Media Player 1 Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 111 A HW: 4L0 035 111
Component: CD-Changer H41 0100
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ5ZBF3031364
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 1E38CB03C9AB7BE8330
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4L0-910-655.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 655 B HW: 4L0 959 655
Component: 31 AIRBAG AUDI8RH38 0120
Revision: 05H38000 Serial number: 0037GD06EATC
Coding: 0013105
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 2C5C11CB8F179978AD4
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 HW: 4F0 953 549 A
Component: Lenksäulenmodul H08 0230
Revision: 00H08000 Serial number: 90054061900297
Coding: 0102142
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: E6C823E3D17BE3283B0
Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: Lenkradmodul H07 0090
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4L0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 930 C HW: 4L0 920 980 G
Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H17 0110
Revision: 00300000 Serial number: 5HJ38KC76
Coding: 2657443
Shop #: WSC 06144 000 1048576
VCID: 234EFAF7E2C956001CE
No fault code found.
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Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: None
Part No SW: 4L0 910 105 HW: 4L0 815 071 C
Component: Heizgeraet H07 0060
Revision: 0000000E Serial number: 00000009011043
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: E0C435FB335F8D18C1C
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4L0-910-468.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 468 HW: 4L0 907 468
Component: J533__Gateway H06 0040
Revision: 00H06000 Serial number: 0900B067198014
Coding: F55BBE7F307202
Shop #: WSC 00202 210 80978
VCID: ECDC51CBCF97D9786D4
No fault code found.
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Address 34: Level Control Labels: None
Part No SW: 4L0 910 553 B HW: 4L0 907 553
Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC H03 7550
Revision: --H03001 Serial number: 15.1528-0095.2
Coding: 0015510
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 2952E8DF80E58C50562
No fault code found.
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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 888 P HW: 4E0 919 887 D
Component: MNS ECE H48 1060
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 399GY067530247
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 3B7E22977A790EC034E
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 4L0-910-793-42.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 793 B HW: 4L0 959 793 B
Component: TSG FA H12 0130
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: gh‚
Coding: 0002651
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 2F6606C7BE01E260886
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4L0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 289 D HW: 4L0 907 289 A
Component: Komfortgeraet H05 0020
Revision: 0020 --- Serial number: 01016072060000
Coding: 7348475
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 316200BFA835F4909E2
Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
Part No: 4F0 910 177
Component: Innenraumueberw.H01 0020
1 Fault Found:
01699 - Motor for Central Locking; Hatch/Trunk (V53)
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 109
Reset counter: 25
Mileage: 139057 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.03.26
Time: 11:22:20
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Address 47: Sound System Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4L0 910 223 B HW: 4L0 035 223
Component: DSP-AU716 H20 0100
Revision: 11S00001 Serial number: 01307060320074
Coding: 0000013
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 234EFAF7E2C956001CE
No fault code found.
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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 280 HW: 4F0 907 280 E
Component: ILM Beifahrer H10 0080
Revision: Serial number: 00000000004784
Coding: 0011101
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: DEB80B03092BBBE8F30
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4L0-910-793-52.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 793 B HW: 4L0 959 792 B
Component: TSG BF H12 0130
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: uƒ
Coding: 0002651
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 2F6606C7BE01E260886
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 F HW: 4F0 907 357 F
Component: AFS 1 H01 0020
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000022
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 2952E8DF80E58C50562
Part No: 7L6 941 329 A
Component: AFS-Modul links H06 0002
Part No: 7L6 941 329 A
Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH06 0002
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 T HW: 4E0 035 541 P
Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0630
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 388GW067540507
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 316200BFA835F4909E2
No fault code found.
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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 181 HW: 4L0 915 181
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0530
Revision: -------- Serial number: 00000000029522
Shop #: WSC 00551 210 86264
VCID: E4CC39EB27479138254
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 009 2S5 013 0
Component: von VA0 536079390A
Coding: 303039325335303133302056413035333630373933393041
Shop #: WSC 00551 210 86264
1 Fault Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 69
Mileage: 140045 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.13
Time: 20:21:02
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4L0-910-795.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 795 B HW: 4L0 959 795 B
Component: TSG HL H21 0050
Coding: 0002058
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 316200BFA835F4909E2
No fault code found.
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Address 67: Voice Control Labels: 4E0-910-75x-67.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 754 S HW: 4E0 035 753 A
Component: SDS 3502 UK H45 0630
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000607050343
Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
VCID: 366833A3415BD3A8CB0
No fault code found.
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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. Labels: None
Part No SW: 4L0 910 945 HW: 4L0 827 851 A
Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H20 0280
Revision: --H20001 Serial number: E5030000B
Shop #: WSC 98765 666 38354
VCID: ECDC51CBCF97D9786D4
Part No: 4L0 910 946
Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H20 0280
No fault code found.
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Address 6F: Centr. Conv. II Labels: 4L0-910-290.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 290 HW: 4L0 907 290
Component: ILM HINTEN 2 H05 0060
Revision: AAH05061 Serial number: 001845617-----
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: E5CA24EF2C7DE83032A
No fault code found.
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 4L0-910-795.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 795 B HW: 4L0 959 794 B
Component: TSG HR H21 0050
Coding: 0002058
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 316200BFA835F4909E2
No fault code found.
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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 283 G HW: 4F0 919 283 G
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0060
Revision: 00H12000 Serial number: 06320618801916
Coding: 0201146
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 2854EDDB9BEFB55849C
No fault code found.
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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 336 M HW: 4E0 862 335
Component: Handyvorb2 H13 1130
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0010900
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2C5C11CB8F179978AD4
No fault code found.
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#15
06-22-2013 | 08:16 AM
1st Gear
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1
.I have a 2007 Q7 and the battery is dead, I tried to jump it a few times with no result. I am considering charging the battery.How do you charge a battery when its dead, do you have to remove the battery or can you charge it from the port under the bonnet
#16
06-22-2013 | 08:34 AM
1st Gear
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 48
you can take it off the car(under passenger seat) or charge it via points under the bonnet(better this way) as the battery management will know the battery is getting charged,if you charge it out the car and put it back in the car,the batt managment will still think its a dead battery,unless what you can do is change 1 digit in codeing if you have vcds,this will make the car think new battery is installed.
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