looking at '04 A6 2.7..any good? are they bad?
#1
looking at '04 A6 2.7..any good? are they bad?
Hi everyone how are you? just wanted to get your opinion on these cars...how is the 2.7L twin turbo engine? pretty good? reliable? any issues? are they pretty good on fuel?
does it have a timing belt or chain?
I read a bit on this model/year and seemed to have good review but wanted to make sure...
thanks
fabs
does it have a timing belt or chain?
I read a bit on this model/year and seemed to have good review but wanted to make sure...
thanks
fabs
#2
1. I'm good
2. The 2.7 will get you decent power on the highway. The A6 is a big heavy car and takes a lot of ooph to get going. It is not a light to light racer. It was not designed to work that way. If you put a few $15-20K into it you can make it one helluva sleeper racecar.
3. I think its pretty good
4. Reliability depends mostly on good maintenance. If you take care of the car, it will take care of you. The more miles, the more the possibility of having reliability problems. you will get that with any make and model car.
5. Issues? Where do I start? Parts can be pricey. If you can't DIY be prepared to pay for a specialist @ ~$100 /hr at a minimum. Don't try to go cheap. If you can DIY be prepared to be dirty and frustrated. there is a reason you pay a lot for a specialist.
6. Big car. Quattro AWD system. Requires premium fuel. If you are worried about fuel economy, you can do better. Much better. I get about 18 MPG with mostly city driving and a lot of sitting still waiting for traffic to start moving.
7. Timing belt
be sure to spend some time reading the A6 section. the 2.7T sticky is really quite good.
2. The 2.7 will get you decent power on the highway. The A6 is a big heavy car and takes a lot of ooph to get going. It is not a light to light racer. It was not designed to work that way. If you put a few $15-20K into it you can make it one helluva sleeper racecar.
3. I think its pretty good
4. Reliability depends mostly on good maintenance. If you take care of the car, it will take care of you. The more miles, the more the possibility of having reliability problems. you will get that with any make and model car.
5. Issues? Where do I start? Parts can be pricey. If you can't DIY be prepared to pay for a specialist @ ~$100 /hr at a minimum. Don't try to go cheap. If you can DIY be prepared to be dirty and frustrated. there is a reason you pay a lot for a specialist.
6. Big car. Quattro AWD system. Requires premium fuel. If you are worried about fuel economy, you can do better. Much better. I get about 18 MPG with mostly city driving and a lot of sitting still waiting for traffic to start moving.
7. Timing belt
be sure to spend some time reading the A6 section. the 2.7T sticky is really quite good.
#3
02A6, thanks for the reply, thanks for info...i know abit about euroeen cars as i have a 2006 volvo v70. I know they are not cheap to maintain (BTW our volvo dealer is at $129/hr ), so it'll be around the same thing. I figured it would b e heavier car, kinda like my volvo i guess. WE recently purchased a 2008 saab 9-3 and have to say...i love it, it's a fun-to-drive car, very nimble...i guess the a6 is completly different then???
and milage is around the same as my car, but got more hp..
thanks
fabs
and milage is around the same as my car, but got more hp..
thanks
fabs
#4
Seems like you have a pretty decent handle on what kind of owner experience that you are in for, coming from the Saab.
The A6 is definitely fun to drive, in my opinion. It is what it is, however. It is a big, heavy sedan. I find it to be pretty funny when some ricer in his civic has trouble following me through the cloverleaf getting on and off the highway. most of that is because I'm a bit more savvy a driver than the average and the Audi is very, very well put together. I just wanted to be sure you aren't expecting the car to be something that it isn't.
take a test drive. put it through its paces
The A6 is definitely fun to drive, in my opinion. It is what it is, however. It is a big, heavy sedan. I find it to be pretty funny when some ricer in his civic has trouble following me through the cloverleaf getting on and off the highway. most of that is because I'm a bit more savvy a driver than the average and the Audi is very, very well put together. I just wanted to be sure you aren't expecting the car to be something that it isn't.
take a test drive. put it through its paces
#5
thanks again...i think i understand what you're saying, i don't know if it's for me, as i have a big solid driving car (volvo) great on the highway, but i don't find it to be a nimble driving car, whereas the saab, you can take a sharp curve at a good speed and takes it like it's on rails..is the a6 like this or more a heavier feel?
as for the saab, we've only had it for about a month..no issues yet, from the reviews they seem like good reliable cars and drive well.
I've always like the big heavy cars, but just wish the volvo would feel lighter or nimble in it's handling.
My brother currently has a 2004 A4 S4 wagon, 5 speed with big v8 engine..man i love it, it drives like a beast, good handling and sticks to the ground!
if the A6 is anything like this (minus all the HP of the V8) then it might be good.
any issues engine,tranny or turbo wise on the 2.7L?
fab
as for the saab, we've only had it for about a month..no issues yet, from the reviews they seem like good reliable cars and drive well.
I've always like the big heavy cars, but just wish the volvo would feel lighter or nimble in it's handling.
My brother currently has a 2004 A4 S4 wagon, 5 speed with big v8 engine..man i love it, it drives like a beast, good handling and sticks to the ground!
if the A6 is anything like this (minus all the HP of the V8) then it might be good.
any issues engine,tranny or turbo wise on the 2.7L?
fab
#6
I understand what you are are asking, but I really don't think I can give you a good answer. My A6 feels good and solid. It does handle very well, in my opinion, stuck to the ground as you say about your brother's S4. You can always upgrade the suspension for a better feel. really, the best advice I can give is take a test drive.
there were some torque converter issues in the tiptronic transmissions in the 2.7T in 2001 and prior (IIRC). You should not have any major issues in an 04. Engine is really solid, overbuilt for stock power. Turbo longevity comes down to maintenance. if the car was/is well cared for it should not have any major issues. If there is a turbo problem, you have a MAJOR issue. The 2.7T turbos are on the back of the motor. the only way to access them is to pull the motor. ~$5-7K for new turbos.
there were some torque converter issues in the tiptronic transmissions in the 2.7T in 2001 and prior (IIRC). You should not have any major issues in an 04. Engine is really solid, overbuilt for stock power. Turbo longevity comes down to maintenance. if the car was/is well cared for it should not have any major issues. If there is a turbo problem, you have a MAJOR issue. The 2.7T turbos are on the back of the motor. the only way to access them is to pull the motor. ~$5-7K for new turbos.
#7
I understand what you are are asking, but I really don't think I can give you a good answer. My A6 feels good and solid. It does handle very well, in my opinion, stuck to the ground as you say about your brother's S4. You can always upgrade the suspension for a better feel. really, the best advice I can give is take a test drive.
there were some torque converter issues in the tiptronic transmissions in the 2.7T in 2001 and prior (IIRC). You should not have any major issues in an 04. Engine is really solid, overbuilt for stock power. Turbo longevity comes down to maintenance. if the car was/is well cared for it should not have any major issues. If there is a turbo problem, you have a MAJOR issue. The 2.7T turbos are on the back of the motor. the only way to access them is to pull the motor. ~$5-7K for new turbos.
there were some torque converter issues in the tiptronic transmissions in the 2.7T in 2001 and prior (IIRC). You should not have any major issues in an 04. Engine is really solid, overbuilt for stock power. Turbo longevity comes down to maintenance. if the car was/is well cared for it should not have any major issues. If there is a turbo problem, you have a MAJOR issue. The 2.7T turbos are on the back of the motor. the only way to access them is to pull the motor. ~$5-7K for new turbos.
Lots of failures of TC in 01-04. ALL cara with 5hp19 have this issue. BMW, Porsche, Audi, VW.
Also op the s4 only came in 6 speed manual after 00 in us.
And the 4.2 engine in the s4 is garbage. VERY high engine failure rate due to the cam chain tensioner failing. All that 4.2 is good for is sound and 100k (lots of people had engine replaced before 100k due to CCT. Very funny thread on audizine)
The 2.7 will also blow away the 4.2 with a little mods. Chip alone bring around 250AWHP 300 crank.
#8
Hi gang, thanks for the replies...this doesn't seem too promising..hahaha
i don't know why but when it comes to audi's i've never had and "positive" comments. I know they are okay, but usually have issues. Most car companies do, but it seems that audi's are on the higher scale of this.
I know that saabs are generally good cars, but might cost on repairs as parts are not built anymore...in this case, audi's come with the hefty price tag,even though parts are still being made.
In this case, i guess the tranny (TC) is the main culprit....i know in my volvo it was the tranny program that screwed up alot of trannies...luckily i got mine (valve body job) done uner warranty if not..over $2000 bananas
and then there's the turbo's ..even if the oil changes where done lets say every 6000km would this help out on their life-span?
thanks
fabs
i don't know why but when it comes to audi's i've never had and "positive" comments. I know they are okay, but usually have issues. Most car companies do, but it seems that audi's are on the higher scale of this.
I know that saabs are generally good cars, but might cost on repairs as parts are not built anymore...in this case, audi's come with the hefty price tag,even though parts are still being made.
In this case, i guess the tranny (TC) is the main culprit....i know in my volvo it was the tranny program that screwed up alot of trannies...luckily i got mine (valve body job) done uner warranty if not..over $2000 bananas
and then there's the turbo's ..even if the oil changes where done lets say every 6000km would this help out on their life-span?
thanks
fabs