turbo
#11
10-21-2007, 02:58 PM
RE: turbo
These are mostly if not all fwd 1.8t's so take off a small percent of power. Also remember some of these are older and the tunes are less than perfect.
old T3-Super60 dyno (100 octane)
- REVO BT software
- 440cc injectors
- 3" exhaust
- GReddy FMIC (T31)
319 whp / 307 wtq
APR Stage 3+
evoms fmic
stock airbox w/stock filter and snorkel
3" TB exhaust
93 octane:
Stock block and head, APR Stage III+, 3" GHL CB, Eurojet Race Core FMIC, n75J, Pump Gas.
No A/F on this run.
Mods: t3s60 20 - 19 psi, revo BT Beta t3t4 program, sps3 t3 hb9, cast manifold, 440 cc greentop injectors, 4 bar fpr, 255 lph walbro intank fuel pump, VR MAF housing, power gasket, FMIC, 2.5 inch turboback with testpipe, pullies, greddy profec b spec 2, engine/tranny mounts, ecs stage 1 clutch kit, and peloquin diff.
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a good read
old T3-Super60 dyno (100 octane)
- REVO BT software
- 440cc injectors
- 3" exhaust
- GReddy FMIC (T31)
319 whp / 307 wtq
APR Stage 3+
evoms fmic
stock airbox w/stock filter and snorkel
3" TB exhaust
93 octane:
Stock block and head, APR Stage III+, 3" GHL CB, Eurojet Race Core FMIC, n75J, Pump Gas.
No A/F on this run.
Mods: t3s60 20 - 19 psi, revo BT Beta t3t4 program, sps3 t3 hb9, cast manifold, 440 cc greentop injectors, 4 bar fpr, 255 lph walbro intank fuel pump, VR MAF housing, power gasket, FMIC, 2.5 inch turboback with testpipe, pullies, greddy profec b spec 2, engine/tranny mounts, ecs stage 1 clutch kit, and peloquin diff.
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a good read
#17
10-21-2007, 05:44 PM
RE: turbo
in 3rd-5th gear, yes you will. Again, you dont have to be a DBB turbo to spool fast.
Did you miss that part where i said that spool is about the same? I guess i should of said that the t3 spools faster. You dont get the same load on a dyno as on the street, so spool will be faster on the street.
Did you miss that part where i said that spool is about the same? I guess i should of said that the t3 spools faster. You dont get the same load on a dyno as on the street, so spool will be faster on the street.
#18
10-21-2007, 06:19 PM
RE: turbo
ORIGINAL: cincyTT
in 3rd-5th gear, yes you will. Again, you dont have to be a DBB turbo to spool fast.
Did you miss that part where i said that spool is about the same? I guess i should of said that the t3 spools faster. You dont get the same load on a dyno as on the street, so spool will be faster on the street.
in 3rd-5th gear, yes you will. Again, you dont have to be a DBB turbo to spool fast.
Did you miss that part where i said that spool is about the same? I guess i should of said that the t3 spools faster. You dont get the same load on a dyno as on the street, so spool will be faster on the street.
#19
10-21-2007, 06:28 PM
RE: turbo
Lets see, higher gear (4th), + more load from the street, + giac ko3 chip with much more low end timing (which increases spool), its more than doable and he isnt the only one.
Not to mention he ran ko3 sw on a gt28rs .64 &.86, gt2871r .64 & 86, t3t4 57trim and then a t3 60trim and making far more power than people with specific chips.
I would post his logs but his girl had a baby and he sold off the gti and most of his logs and dynos are now dead links.
send murderface a pm, he has the dyno that was in that link somewhere.
Not to mention he ran ko3 sw on a gt28rs .64 &.86, gt2871r .64 & 86, t3t4 57trim and then a t3 60trim and making far more power than people with specific chips.
I would post his logs but his girl had a baby and he sold off the gti and most of his logs and dynos are now dead links.
send murderface a pm, he has the dyno that was in that link somewhere.
#20
10-26-2007, 11:48 PM
RE: turbo
ORIGINAL: trailboss
On that read i highly doubt, and do not believe that he got full boost "25psi" at 3k rpms. I would wanna see logs to convince me.
On that read i highly doubt, and do not believe that he got full boost "25psi" at 3k rpms. I would wanna see logs to convince me.
GT-ER
Wow, gotta love arguments..lol.
Gberg888GLI, you obviously know absolutely nothing about the T3S60. Just the way you describe it's "power delivery" shows it.
A 1.8T with a T3S60 does not fell "naturally aspirated" until AFTER it hits full boost. It's power before full boost is actually similar to the K03. Of course the K03 spools quicker, it's turbine housing is smaller than my fist and the wheel is smaller than my eye ball... but the T3S60 really isn't much more laggy. How is that possible? Simple, it's more efficient. Why didn't VW install it from the start...good question...but spool isn't the only thing VW was after...I bet the got a hell of a deal from KKK ( $$$ ).
Here is one of my T3-60trim dynos:
Here is one of my K03 dynos:
Both done in 3rd gear and on a dyno jet. Notice the difference in lag? The K03 got full boost by about ~3400rpm and the T3 by ~3600rpm. Not much of a difference at all... this is on a dyno where there is less load than on the road...in the road they will both spool considerably sooner. But what is the difference? 200-300rpm? That's is almost negligible and you honestly can barely even feel the difference in time.
I cannot think of a single person who would find the T3S60 laggier than a K03s...especially after feeling the HUGE difference it make in power. 50+whp difference is pretty hard to ignore.
And this is from someone who has actually OWNED both.
Wow, gotta love arguments..lol.
Gberg888GLI, you obviously know absolutely nothing about the T3S60. Just the way you describe it's "power delivery" shows it.
A 1.8T with a T3S60 does not fell "naturally aspirated" until AFTER it hits full boost. It's power before full boost is actually similar to the K03. Of course the K03 spools quicker, it's turbine housing is smaller than my fist and the wheel is smaller than my eye ball... but the T3S60 really isn't much more laggy. How is that possible? Simple, it's more efficient. Why didn't VW install it from the start...good question...but spool isn't the only thing VW was after...I bet the got a hell of a deal from KKK ( $$$ ).
Here is one of my T3-60trim dynos:
Here is one of my K03 dynos:
Both done in 3rd gear and on a dyno jet. Notice the difference in lag? The K03 got full boost by about ~3400rpm and the T3 by ~3600rpm. Not much of a difference at all... this is on a dyno where there is less load than on the road...in the road they will both spool considerably sooner. But what is the difference? 200-300rpm? That's is almost negligible and you honestly can barely even feel the difference in time.
I cannot think of a single person who would find the T3S60 laggier than a K03s...especially after feeling the HUGE difference it make in power. 50+whp difference is pretty hard to ignore.
And this is from someone who has actually OWNED both.
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