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Old 05-12-2007, 08:48 PM
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My 99 1.8t is running great i park it. get in it 10mins later go to start it up and....CEL if flashing, car is shaking, rough idle, i pull out and try driving the car has no power at all. i pull into a parking lot shut it off start it up CEL turns solid car runs great. go home park it. next morning start it up no CEL car runs great to work. way home from work CEL turns solid car runs fine, park it. going out to dinner CEL flash's car runs like crap, park it eat, get back in car still running bad CEL flashing rough idle burning smell?
all take it to the shop tomorow to get it pluged into the comp. but any idea's im assuming its a sensor of some sort? or something simple. Thanks.
 
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Old 05-12-2007, 08:50 PM
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The ICM or power output stage thats bolted to the airbox is faulty. (frequent issue)
 
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Old 05-12-2007, 08:51 PM
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The one on top of my air box with the 2 plugs? where can i pick one up?
 
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Old 05-12-2007, 08:53 PM
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I only know of the dealer which is about $300
 
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Old 05-12-2007, 08:58 PM
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Could also be a bad coil pack.
 
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:00 PM
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Not a chance on a 99, i never replaced a coil pack on an engine with a seperate power output stage. Replaced about 400 or so ICM's. But its possible, although unlikely
 
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:21 PM
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WTF is the output stage!?! ive posted this **** yesterday, no one wants to properly reply explaining wtf isup!
whats it mean if i get Coil Output Stage 1, 2 AND 3 come up on VAG-COM with an electrical malfunction? where are these output stages, the 3 pins on the ICM or the 3 coils????
Plugs are clean.
only problem i am getting is a slight vibration once i get to 60mph!
people on audizine dont even want to explain this!
i have a '96 2.8L V6
 
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:36 PM
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On 97-02 vehicles there are what you know as ICM (ignition control modules) what the germans call power output stages.
The what they do is take the signal from the ECM and up the primary voltage to the respective cylinder and the coil pack with the secondary coil fires the spark into the cylinder. On later vehicles 03 and newer the power output stage is built into the coil which means it takes signals directly from the ECM and converts both the primary and secondary voltage spikes, which is why you have bad ignition coils all the time on B6 A4's
 
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:10 PM
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00 and up don't have ICM's.
 
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:31 PM
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ORIGINAL: auditech79

On 97-02 vehicles there are what you know as ICM (ignition control modules) what the germans call power output stages.
The what they do is take the signal from the ECM and up the primary voltage to the respective cylinder and the coil pack with the secondary coil fires the spark into the cylinder. On later vehicles 03 and newer the power output stage is built into the coil which means it takes signals directly from the ECM and converts both the primary and secondary voltage spikes, which is why you have bad ignition coils all the time on B6 A4's
thanks.
about 2 months ago i got this code.....
16690 P0306 072
Cylinder 6: Misfire Detected[/b]

then last monthi got a transmission oil flush anddone aVAG-COM. the misfire detected code dissapeared but in its place 3 new codes poped up as follows......
P1393 / 17801[/b]
Ignition Coil Power Output Stage 1: Electrical Malfunction[/b]
[/b]
P1394 / 17802[/b]
Ignition Coil Power Output Stage 2: Electrical Malfunction[/b]
[/b]
P1395 / 17803[/b]
Ignition Coil Power Output Stage 3: Electrical Malfunction[/b]
[/b]
so, this means that pin 1, 2 and 3 (L1, L2 and L3) are bad on the ICM, right? so i just need a new ICM to get rid of all 3 codes?
like i said before, i dont have a major problem execpt a little viration once i reach 60mph, but i just dont want to go out somewhere and then i cant start my car and im stuck when i knew that my ICM was gradualy failing.
 


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